Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 02-04-2007

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ESPN is wondering how Peyton ranks among the all time greats. I put him at #3. Sportsnation has him at #3 as well. He's sort of like Marino with a championship now. Where do you rank 'em?

Sports nations rankings:

Joe Montana
John Elway
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
Brett Favre
Steve Young
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Troy Aikman
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach

Bob_A · 02-04-2007

There is John Unitas, then there is Joe Montana, then there is everyone else.

TwinSisters · 02-04-2007

I would still have him in the same spot... down around 7 to 8.

The pre-78 Quarterbacks had tougher pass coverage rules, and Manning needed that lifted to perform at the level he does.

that list is a bunch of crap. Why would Starbauch be on it and not Len Dawson or Joe Namath.

O yeah because Aikman is also... I smell fish ( or trich ).

**HoustonFrog** · 02-04-2007

I voted 30 minutes ago and he was #5. It looks like people have taken this as a large step. Obviously it is but I still don't rank him ahead of some multiple winners and others.

Mr teX · 02-04-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sport...tranker?id=662

ESPN is wondering how Peyton ranks among the all time greats. I put him at #3. Sportsnation has him at #3 as well. He's sort of like Marino with a championship now. Where do you rank 'em?

Sports nations rankings:

Joe Montana
John Elway
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
Brett Favre
Steve Young
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Troy Aikman
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach

when he's all finished i think he'll be top 5, which that varies from person to person.

For me & for who i've seen actually play in their primes:

Montana/Manning
Elway
Marino
Aikman/Favre

I'm sure the old heads can & will make a case for Johnny Unitas to be in their somewhere, but as i stated, this is my list for who i've actually seen play.

TexanSam · 02-04-2007

1. Montana
2. Unitas
3. Elway
4. Brady
5. Manning
6. Favre
7. Marino
8. Young
9. Aikman
10. Bradshaw

My list.

Mysteryhunt · 02-05-2007

its harder to win multiple super bowls now than it was in the past, so i think manning gets a break there.

riverside · 02-05-2007

Peyton Manning, the Field General is the single greatest player to ever grace the gridiron.

Although some may say I am a bit biased.

nunusguy · 02-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02

John Elway
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
Brett Favre

My top 5, with Elway being the best that ever stepped on the field.
I dunno for sure what the order shoud be for the other 4.

kastofsna · 02-05-2007

1: marino
2: montana
3: brady
4: elway
5: manning

**Wharton** · 02-05-2007

1. John Unitas (first revolution of the QB position)
2. Montana (2nd revolution of the QB position)
3. Brady (3 SB and counting)

Everybody else.

I hate these things. Everybody forgets how good guys like Johnny U. and Roger Stauback really were. I'd take Roger over Payton any day of the week.

kbourda · 02-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Bob_A

There is John Unitas, then there is Joe Montana, then there is everyone else.

I hear great things about Johnny U but i've never seen him play. So I can't comment about him but i'm pretty much with you. I'd take Montana any day of the week. But Manning is there with em', yesterday just cemented his place among the all time greats.

**gtexan02** · 02-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wharton

1. John Unitas (first revolution of the QB position)
2. Montana (2nd revolution of the QB position)
3. Brady (3 SB and counting)

Everybody else.

I hate these things. Everybody forgets how good guys like Johnny U. and Roger Stauback really were. I'd take Roger over Payton any day of the week.

Manning is in the process of revolutionizing the QB role as we speak. he may b the first QB/coach of a team. No one is given more offensive authority on the field than Manning.

Mr teX · 02-05-2007

Manning - Has elements of all these & other greats from the past so it's only fitting that he's going to break almost every major record for Qb's & IMO you could insert him anywhere near the top with Montana, Elway & Unitas in my top 5, he's at no less than 4 in my book.

Montana - the 1st real QB i ever saw, accurate within inches, Pocket Prescence,multiple superbowls & probably the strongest mental game of them all.

Elway - probably the most complete of his era IMO, gun, accurate, Pocket presence, could run if you needed him to, just all around, a very bad man.

Marino - Mr. "yeah i'm going to pass & it ain't a thing you can do about." Best pure passer of them all could just make the stingiest defense look straight silly at times, gun mounted up on his shoulders just an absolute privledge to watch that man play.

Favre - Tough as nails, that absolutley ridiculous consecutive starts streak, a fighter & if Elway & Marino had a guns, this dude has a Navy cannon, it scared me a times at how hard he threw it.

**Double Barrel** · 02-05-2007

The real list:

1. VINCE YOUNG
2. Everyone else

kbourda · 02-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

The real list:

1. VINCE YOUNG
2. Everyone else

That's a good one!

**Wharton** · 02-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02

Manning is in the process of revolutionizing the QB role as we speak. he may b the first QB/coach of a team. No one is given more offensive authority on the field than Manning.

Actually, having the plays sent in by the coach is a relatively new concept. Most of the older QBs like Unitas and Star, called their own plays. I'm not talking about getting to choose a play out of two plays like Payton, I'm talking about calling every offensive play. Stabler was the last QB that I know of who called his own plays and he retired in 1984.

Granted Payton is a very good QB and has mastered the position, but their is nothing original about his game. Brady is the same way. There is nothing original about his game either, he just happens to be the best available right now.

The definition of Greatness is when everything before you is obsolete and everything after you bare's your mark.

The only current QB who has a chance to meet this definition of greatness is Vince Young. Note, I said chance. Vince has a long way to go before we can classify him with Unitas and Montana. Otherwise, none of todays QBs come close to fitting this definition of greatness.

Boxscore · 02-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sport...tranker?id=662

ESPN is wondering how Peyton ranks among the all time greats. I put him at #3. Sportsnation has him at #3 as well. He's sort of like Marino with a championship now. Where do you rank 'em?

Sports nations rankings:

Joe Montana
John Elway
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
Brett Favre
Steve Young
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Troy Aikman
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach

How can Sportsnation leave Joe Namath off of this list? If you agree he should be on the list, who would you take off?

Wolf · 02-05-2007

and where is Warren Moon?

**Trap_Star** · 02-05-2007

MY LIST: (im only 21, so im only gonna rank QBs i've seen play)

1.Elway
2.Brady
3.Aikman
4.Young
5.Marino
6.Manning

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Bob_A Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Channelview Age: 60 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? There is John Unitas, then there is Joe Montana, then there is everyone else. __________________ Lets hear it for our long snapper...Bryan Pittman

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TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 26 Posts: 16,660 Rep Power: 23578	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? 1. Montana 2. Unitas 3. Elway 4. Brady 5. Manning 6. Favre 7. Marino 8. Young 9. Aikman 10. Bradshaw My list. __________________ Thanks to Premier

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Mysteryhunt Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 296 Rep Power: 8	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? its harder to win multiple super bowls now than it was in the past, so i think manning gets a break there.

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TwinSisters Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my mind. Posts: 1,470 Rep Power: 11	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? I would still have him in the same spot... down around 7 to 8. The pre-78 Quarterbacks had tougher pass coverage rules, and Manning needed that lifted to perform at the level he does. that list is a bunch of crap. Why would Starbauch be on it and not Len Dawson or Joe Namath. O yeah because Aikman is also... I smell fish ( or trich ). __________________ First of all you should always take the best player-Polian.

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riverside Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? Peyton Manning, the Field General is the single greatest player to ever grace the gridiron. Although some may say I am a bit biased.

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kastofsna Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 7,438 Rep Power: 405	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? 1: marino 2: montana 3: brady 4: elway 5: manning

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Wharton Site Contributor Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 10	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? 1. John Unitas (first revolution of the QB position) 2. Montana (2nd revolution of the QB position) 3. Brady (3 SB and counting) Everybody else. I hate these things. Everybody forgets how good guys like Johnny U. and Roger Stauback really were. I'd take Roger over Payton any day of the week.

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Mr teX Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everyone Wants The Throne Posts: 6,303 Rep Power: 14448	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? Manning - Has elements of all these & other greats from the past so it's only fitting that he's going to break almost every major record for Qb's & IMO you could insert him anywhere near the top with Montana, Elway & Unitas in my top 5, he's at no less than 4 in my book. Montana - the 1st real QB i ever saw, accurate within inches, Pocket Prescence,multiple superbowls & probably the strongest mental game of them all. Elway - probably the most complete of his era IMO, gun, accurate, Pocket presence, could run if you needed him to, just all around, a very bad man. Marino - Mr. "yeah i'm going to pass & it ain't a thing you can do about." Best pure passer of them all could just make the stingiest defense look straight silly at times, gun mounted up on his shoulders just an absolute privledge to watch that man play. Favre - Tough as nails, that absolutley ridiculous consecutive starts streak, a fighter & if Elway & Marino had a guns, this dude has a Navy cannon, it scared me a times at how hard he threw it.

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Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,231 Rep Power: 84022	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? The real list: 1. VINCE YOUNG 2. Everyone else __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

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Trap_Star SiteContributor Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: xvideo Age: 27 Posts: 4,349 Rep Power: 9782	Re: Where does Peyton Manning rank among the all time greats? MY LIST: (im only 21, so im only gonna rank QBs i've seen play) 1.Elway 2.Brady 3.Aikman 4.Young 5.Marino 6.Manning __________________ Sorry Brakos! I need to change my Sig for Texan_Bill's friend!! RIP Stephen "Bubba" Carranza!! You will always be loved!! RIP!!!

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