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Old 01-27-2007   #1
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The NFL has admitted that it was wrong when Patriots cornerback Ellis Hobbs was flagged for pass interference on Reggie Wayne in New England’s AFC Championship Game loss to Indianapolis last Sunday. The call ultimately led to the tying score for the Colts, who advanced to the Super Bowl with a 38-34 victory.

On the play — second-and-7 from the Pats’ 19-yard line — Hobbs was face-guarding Wayne in the back left corner of the end zone. The pass from Peyton Manning hit Hobbs on the back of his left arm, and after the game the second-year corner, who combined with Asante Samuel to give a great effort on Pro Bowl players Wayne and Marvin Harrison, said he never touched his man.

But the flag was thrown, and pass interference is not one of the calls that coaches can challenge. Indy got first-and-goal from the one, and on the next play Manning found wide-open former Patriot Dan Klecko for a touchdown. The Colts also made a two-point conversion to tie the game, 21-21.
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Not that I had a dog in the fight, but I was yelling at the screen when that hankie flew. Potentially a game changing call and it was crystal clear Hobbs never touched Wayne.
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Not that I had a dog in the fight, but I was yelling at the screen when that hankie flew. Potentially a game changing call and it was crystal clear Hobbs never touched Wayne.
I never got that call. I don't care if his head wasn't turned..he never touched him and it was a good play. A little easier to score from 1st and goal than 3rd down from the 19.
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Not that I had a dog in the fight, but I was yelling at the screen when that hankie flew. Potentially a game changing call and it was crystal clear Hobbs never touched Wayne.
The call easily makes up for past non calls in the playoffs going in favor of the Pats.
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The call easily makes up for past non calls in the playoffs going in favor of the Pats.
Preach it.

I completely agree.

The tuck rule? Gimme' a break.
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Oh great....so the NFL is gonna start making up for missed calls in the past like the NBA.
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That's why you fight so hard for home field. It has its advantages.
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That's why you fight so hard for home field. It has its advantages.
But should it? Personally I don't think it should in that kind of way. Tarnishes the integrity of the game if you ask me.
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Preach it.

I completely agree.

The tuck rule? Gimme' a break.
That was my immediate thought.
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I thought it was a horrible call. I thought Hobbs played it perfectly. It was just a good football play.
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Default Re: Refs Admit Blown Call

The calls the Colts cried about in 2003 and 2004 are the reason why the nfl is so damn weak now...can't even look at these WRs...so terrible.
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But should it? Personally I don't think it should in that kind of way. Tarnishes the integrity of the game if you ask me.
No, I don't think it should. The reality is it's like that in every sport, the home team gets questionable calls in their favor. JMO
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The calls the Colts cried about in 2003 and 2004 are the reason why the nfl is so damn weak now...can't even look at these WRs...so terrible.
WR's!! You can't even think of touching the QB anymore. They have made that the most girlie position in all of pro sports.
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No, I don't think it should. The reality is it's like that in every sport, the home team gets questionable calls in their favor. JMO
No doubt, just as long as it doesn't turn into the NBA style of officiating.
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No, I don't think it should. The reality is it's like that in every sport, the home team gets questionable calls in their favor. JMO
Except for the NBA where it is just up to D. Stern who he likes.
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What did you guys think of the call for the Patriots touchdown when it appeared to many that the receivers feet were out of bounds before he went up for the ball and then was pushed out?

From the angle I saw it looked to me as if he was out of bounds before he went up to catch the ball which would have nullified the touchdown. The call that he was "pushed out" after catching the ball was correct but if he were OoB before it wouldn't matter.
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What did you guys think of the call for the Patriots touchdown when it appeared to many that the receivers feet were out of bounds before he went up for the ball and then was pushed out?

From the angle I saw it looked to me as if he was out of bounds before he went up to catch the ball which would have nullified the touchdown. The call that he was "pushed out" after catching the ball was correct but if he were OoB before it wouldn't matter.
There's a good angle where you can see Gafney with his heels off the ground above the line, while his toes were inbounds. From every other angle it looked like he was on the line, but the angle I mentioned shows him inbounds.
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There's a good angle where you can see Gafney with his heels off the ground above the line, while his toes were inbounds. From every other angle it looked like he was on the line, but the angle I mentioned shows him inbounds.
Ok then I'll take your word on that, I never got to see that angle. Thanks for the info.
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Soooo Vic Ketchum of Jags.com says a league source admitted it but the NFL has not issued a statement.
I think hold off on anything considering the source.

The ref never called Face Guarding...Phil Simms did.
The ref called PI.
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There's a good angle where you can see Gafney with his heels off the ground above the line, while his toes were inbounds. From every other angle it looked like he was on the line, but the angle I mentioned shows him inbounds.
I saw the angle alot too. It was a legit play and his heels were off the line.
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So now detractors can say Manning is in the Super Bowl because of a bunk penalty, just like they do with Tom Brady.
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