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Old 01-25-2007   #1
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I don't know if we talked about this before.... but what do you think?? Could that solve our Free safety problem??

I know some have toyed with the idea of moving Dunta to the FS spot, but he is way too small, and too fast for that..... Sanders IMHO is too slow to play Corner, so is Faggins, but he's too small to play safety.

I think if we move Sanders to Safety, & get some speed at the corner position(I just don't think Clements or Samuels are in our price range) our secondary would be much better.
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The easiest way to fix the secondary is to fix the pass rush. No secondary can cover indefiantly.
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The easiest way to fix the secondary is to fix the pass rush. No secondary can cover indefiantly.
The easiest way to fix your pass rush is to get some DBs. NOT have 4 1st rd picks playing Dline for you.

IT SUCKS! when you dont have DBs that can cover if your a DE, Trust me! I used to loose my mind tell ing my CB to jump everything cause all I needed was just one more second to get a sack or force preasure, Mario on A LOT of plays was right there all he needed was another step or 2.

It goes both ways, it all has to be right, just like a QB and his OLine are 1.......
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The easiest way to fix the secondary is to fix the pass rush. No secondary can cover indefiantly.
I agree. Giving an opposing QB too much time in the pocket is always a sure fire way to make sure someone's going to eventually get open. Our pass rush is inconsistent, at best, and non-existent, at worst.
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Default Re: Moving Lewis Sanders to FreeSafety??

Anyone know if Sanders has ever played there?

The old saying goes you can't teach an old dog new tricks and it must be a pretty big change of approach playing safety vs corner.... correct me if I'm wrong.

I just have this horrid image of more mistakes in the secondary as Sanders tries to figure out his new role.... with WR's making unopposed catches 10 yards behind our deepest man.
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The easiest way to fix your pass rush is to get some DBs. NOT have 4 1st rd picks playing Dline for you.

IT SUCKS! when you dont have DBs that can cover if your a DE, Trust me! I used to loose my mind tell ing my CB to jump everything cause all I needed was just one more second to get a sack or force preasure, Mario on A LOT of plays was right there all he needed was another step or 2.

It goes both ways, it all has to be right, just like a QB and his OLine are 1.......
I agree.... for the most part, we weren't giving up too much time to the opposing QBs...

2.5 seconds, we need to be able to cover for 2.5 seconds.
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I don't know if we talked about this before.... but what do you think?? Could that solve our Free safety problem??

I know some have toyed with the idea of moving Dunta to the FS spot, but he is way too small, and too fast for that..... Sanders IMHO is too slow to play Corner, so is Faggins, but he's too small to play safety.

I think if we move Sanders to Safety, & get some speed at the corner position(I just don't think Clements or Samuels are in our price range) our secondary would be much better.
noble thought TK, but i'd think any possible "answer" to our secondary doesnt include Lewis Sanders. I am hoping for a FA signing like Lewis and a CB drafted in April.
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Default Re: Moving Lewis Sanders to FreeSafety??

I'm going to go ahead and say its not our DLs fault or our DBs fault. Its a combination of the two. We had an injury ridden, talent lacking DL and a physically inferior DB corp that combined for the problems we witnessed.
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"Show me a defense that can't get to the quarterback and I'll show you 4 defensive backs that can't cover."

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"Show me DeMarcus Faggins covering a WR one on one and Ill show you a WR having a career day."

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without a doubt, we need to improve the pass rush... at the same time, we need to be able to cover for some amount of time. If the opposing QB is sitting in the pocket for more than 3 seconds, then the DL is not doing their job.

IF the QB is getting rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds...... predominately to his first read, then we've got secondary problems as well.
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I agree.... for the most part, we weren't giving up too much time to the opposing QBs...

2.5 seconds, we need to be able to cover for 2.5 seconds.
Which must explain our 28 total sacks last year, 27th in the league?...

We either consistently pressure opposing QBs or we don't. Sack totals are quite revealing in that regard.
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"Show me DeMarcus Faggins covering a WR one on one and Ill show you a WR having a career day."

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Faggins does fine in man on man in shorter routes.

If our CB's ever had any help over the top there wouldnt be near as many big plays against our secondary. The biggest need on our team is a true FS.

Look at the Dallas Cowboys. IMO they have Terence Newman a good #1 CB. Roy Williams a great SS. Anthony Henry is a above average #2 CB. Then they have Pat Watkins and Keith Davis at FS. Yet their defense lookes terrible.
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Which must explain our 28 total sacks last year, 27th in the league?...

We either consistently pressure opposing QBs or we don't. Sack totals are quite revealing in that regard.
Because the opposing QB doesn't have to look for his second read.... his first read is always open.. he gets rid of the ball on time.

Most sacks in this league occur beyond 2.5 seconds. Most of David's sacks have come beyond 2.5 seconds.

Of course there will be some in less time. but for the most part, the team has to be able to cover for 2.5 seconds.
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I don't know if we talked about this before.... but what do you think?? Could that solve our Free safety problem??

I know some have toyed with the idea of moving Dunta to the FS spot, but he is way too small, and too fast for that..... Sanders IMHO is too slow to play Corner, so is Faggins, but he's too small to play safety.

I think if we move Sanders to Safety, & get some speed at the corner position(I just don't think Clements or Samuels are in our price range) our secondary would be much better.
I agree that more speed at CB is essential, but I don't think Lewis Sanders is good enough to start at FS. I think these are probably our two biggest gaps on the roster and I think we need a significant upgrade to both.

I hope you're wrong about Samuels / Clements, although I suspect you're right, but there's a lot of FS/CB talent in this year's draft and a fair amount in FA - I just hope we address both with genuine quality players, whoever we end up taking.
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I think if we move Sanders to Safety, & get some speed at the corner position(I just don't think Clements or Samuels are in our price range) our secondary would be much better.
I don't think Sanders is a good enough tackler to be the last line of defense. A nickel safety in passing situations, sure. Not an everydown starter. It would be like Marcus Coleman, Part Deux.

As far as upgrading the corner spot with Clements or Samuel, that would be great. Did anyone else hear the Nate Clements interview on 610 this morning? He's living in Pearland, and seemed somewhat receptive to the idea of signing with the Texans.
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I don't think Sanders is a good enough tackler to be the last line of defense. A nickel safety in passing situations, sure. Not an everydown starter. It would be like Marcus Coleman, Part Deux.
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That was my perception as well, and wondered if anyone else felt that way......
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He might be receptive to the ideal but are we receptive to the price tag!!
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He might be receptive to the ideal but are we receptive to the price tag!!
I don't know. Clements will get paid by some team. And it didn't sound like he wanted to move back north. I'd hate to see him sign with the Jags or the Cowgirls, who both have a ton of cap space.
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