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Old 01-21-2007   #1
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If we trade back about 15 spots we could still pick up the other teams 3rd round pick. Maybe we can get lucky and somebody will want to trade up.

Rnd 1 Adrian Peterson RB
Rnd 2 Eric Weddle FS
Rnd 3a Desmond Bishop LB
Rnd 3b Dan Bazuin DE
Rnd 4 Brandon Frye OT
Rnd 5 David Ball WR
Rnd 6 Paul Soliai DT
Rnd 7 Daniel Sepulveda P

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Oh ya I forgot to say I really really hope we sign Asante Samuel.
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If we trade back about 15 spots we could still pick up the other teams 3rd round pick. Maybe we can get lucky and somebody will want to trade up.

Rnd 1 Adrian Peterson RB
Rnd 2 Eric Weddle FS
Rnd 3a Desmond Bishop LB
Rnd 3b Dan Bazuin DE
Rnd 4 Brandon Frye OT
Rnd 5 David Ball WR
Rnd 6 Paul Soliai DT
Rnd 7 Daniel Sepulveda P

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Oh ya I forgot to say I really really hope we sign Asante Samuel.
I hope you meant to say a 2nd & 3rd

8th pick = 1400 points

trade about 15 spots down-

23rd pick = 760 + 350 (55th) + 155 (87th) total = 1265 points

*per draft pick value chart
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Default Re: trade back in 2nd

and you still expect to get AP with the 23rd pick?
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Default Re: trade back in 2nd

i think he meant stay with the 8th, but trade our 2nd for a later pick in the 2nd + 3rd rounder.
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i think he meant stay with the 8th, but trade our 2nd for a later pick in the 2nd + 3rd rounder.
alright, I guess it depends who slips thats targeted @ Texans selection #39 = 510 points

15 spots later (KC 2nd. 54th) = 360 + 3rd rd. pick (KC 3rd. 85th) = 165 total = 525 points
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Default Re: trade back in 2nd

I would not mind us moving down 8-10 spots in the first, but 15 spots in the second is too much for me. I hope we stay with defense in the second round and first if AP is gone. By dropping 15 spots in the second, I think the immediate playmaker may be difficult to find.
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Default Re: trade back in 2nd

The last time we dropped back a couple of spots for an extra 3rd round pick we got Travis Johnson instead of Derrick Johnson. No thanks to dropping back in a round.
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The last time we dropped back a couple of spots for an extra 3rd round pick we got Travis Johnson instead of Derrick Johnson. No thanks to dropping back in a round.
Knowing that staff they probably wouldn't have picked DJ anyway.
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Same draft they took TJ over Jamaal Brown....Pro Bowl LT from the Saints
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actually its a valid question, makes you take a hard look @ the draft prospects available both in the 2nd & 3rd rds. from what I can tell this draft is not as deep as last years where you could still find starters late in the 3rd rd. the 2nd rd looks good at the top but does start to thin out near the end, still some decent picks where the Texans select in the 3rd.

the Texans should upgrade a position on the team with that 2nd rd. pick if they stay put @ #39, it gets a little dicey however down to #54. while I have confidence Kubiak/Smith can find a solid player there who fits the team I would rather pick higher in the 2nd than get the extra late 3rd rd. pick
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Neremind. Denver holds two threes not two 2's.

Well with the All Day fever that has swept the board, I'm hesitant to post this. But if you look carefully, Denver holds two twoes in the second. So the question becomes, do you give up all day, the pick of the saftys, the stud RB, to move down to Denver's pick and end up with a couple of twos & Denver's 1. That would give them three potential starters for one move down. The next question is: Is there anyone at the eight that Shanahan covets and would be willing to move up for for that price, the swap and their two twoes ? Hey that's four potential starters. Say a young DE prospect to take some weight off the gray beards who ran out of steam at the end of their season this year ?

Agreed Beerlover. Once you get out of the second finding a producing contributor, much less a starter, is more of a gamble than it was last year. They hit on a couple of guys past the third, gives me hope that the scouts now, not the staff, are running our draft. That's a good thing.
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Agreed Beerlover. Once you get out of the second finding a producing contributor, much less a starter, is more of a gamble than it was last year. They hit on a couple of guys past the third, gives me hope that the scouts now, not the staff, are running our draft. That's a good thing.
I think NT Paul Soliai may be exactly what we need and if he really can be had in the 6th Round that would be great. Part of the problem with are front line is are lack of a true NT to play the 1 position, that is the DT that lines up on the left shoulder of the Center. He needs to be a massive man that can repeatedly take on double teams. I would love to see the Texans draft Soliai and sign DT Terdell Sands as a free agent, then they can rotate the two of them to keep our run-stopping NT position fresh all game long.
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