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Old 01-20-2007   #1
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This is the 1st mock of the site that I spend alot of my time on when I'm not over here. We recently had a 2 round mock done that was done by the users over there. I posted the mocks over here for feedback and to see what people think last year, so here's mock #1 of the year. Keep in mind, this is very early, so don't kill me if it's not what you wanted to see out of the Texans!



RD 1 PICK: ADRIAN PETERSON, RB, OKLAHOMA

With Peterson and Landry both on the board, it came down to who is the better player. While I like Landry, a consistent and game breaking RB is so much more valuable. Therfore, I chose Adrian Peterson. I know some people are against this, but hear me out on this one; he's easily the best player on the board! He's the best pure runner in awhile and is a power runner. He's got size, speed, vision, moves, and power which is a rare combination in a RB. While he isn't the biggest need, what Peterson can assure us is consistency at the RB position and a playmaker (something Kubiak wants on offense). He has injury problems, but he can learn how to take care of his body and I don't see this as a huge problem as long as we don't run him into the ground. We have Williams, Taylor, Gado, Dayne, and Lundy, but not a single one of them gives us consistency and reliability. Williams could be done for his career, Dayne is a situational player, Gado never really played and needs to make better reads, while Lundy and Taylor are good backups but very inconsistent. Picking Peterson eliminates all the searching for the one feature back.



RD 2 PICK: AARON ROSS, CB, UT


In R2, my choices were limited. What it came down to was who was a need and a good value. I couldn't find any DTs, DEs, OL, or LBs worth taking who were worth it. What it came down to was where was the better prospect: at CB or FS? At CB, there was Aaron Ross and Chris Houston, at FS there was Eric Weddle and Meriweather. While I like all 4, I felt Ross was the best. Houston is all speed it seems, and Brandon "Stomp" Meriweather has tremendous character issues. Therfore, it came down to Weddle and Ross. While I like Weddle, I feel more comfortable with Ross who has more upside at the next level. He has good size, a ballhawk, and plays fast (faster than he's timed). People question his speed and his experience, but he never really gets beat deep and had to sit behind Vasher, Griffin, and Brown (before he jumped past Brown). He has a good head on his shoulders, is a CB who can make plays, and the best DB at the pick in my opinion.



ROUND 1:

1. Oakland - QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU
2. Detroit - OT Joe Thomas, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - DT Alan Branch, Michigan
4. Tampa Bay - WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
5. Arizona - CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh
6. Washington - DE Gaines Adams, Clemson
7. Minnesota - WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC
8. Houston - RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
9. Miami - QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - FS LaRon Landry, LSU
11. San Francisco - FS Reggie Nelson, Florida
12. Buffalo - OT Levi Brown, Penn State
13. St. Louis - DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas
14. Carolina - ILB Patrick Willis, Mississippi
15. Pittsburgh - OLB Quentin Moses, Georgia
16. Green Bay - RB Marshawn Lynch, California
17. Jacksonville - CB Leon Hall, Michigan
18. Cincinnati - DT Amobi Okoye, Louisville
19. Tennessee - WR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State
20. NY Giants - CB Marcus McCauley, Fresno State
21. Denver - DT Quinn Pitcock, Ohio State
22. Dallas - OT/OG Justin Blalock, Texas
23. Kansas City - WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina
24. New England (*SEA) - OLB Paul Poluszny, Penn State
25. NY Jets - DE Jarvis Moss, Florida
26. Philadelphia - OLB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State
27. New Orleans - FS Michael Griffin, Texas
28. New England - WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU
29. Baltimore - OT Arron Sears, Tennessee
30. San Diego - ILB Buster Davis, Florida State
31. Chicago - OLB Earl Everett, Florida
32. Indianapolis - OLB Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma


ROUND 2:

33. Oakland - RB Michael Bush, Louisville
34. Detroit - QB Troy Smith, Ohio State
35. Tampa Bay - DE Charles Johnson, Georgia
36. Cleveland - OT Tony Ugoh, Arkansas
37. NY Jets (*WAS) - RB Brian Leonard, Rutgers
38. Arizona - OT Joe Staley, Central Michigan
39. Miami - WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee
40. Houston - CB Aaron Ross, Texas
41. Minnesota - TE Zach Miller, Arizona State
42. San Francisco - CB Daymeion Hughes, California
43. Buffalo - DE Lamarr Woodley, Michigan
44. Atlanta - DL Adam Carriker, Nebraska
45. Carolina - QB Drew Stanton, Michigan State
46. Pittsburgh - OC Ryan Kalil, USC
47. Green Bay - CB Fred Bennett, South Carolina
48. Jacksonville - OLB Jon Beason, Miami (FL)
49. Cincinnati - TE Greg Olsen, Miami (FL)
50. Tennessee - FS Brandon "Stomp" Meriweather, Miami (FL)
51. NY Giants - DT DeMarcus Tyler, North Carolina State
52. St. Louis - DT Justin Harrell, Tennessee
53. Dallas - WR Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State
54. Kansas City - OT Doug Free, Northern Illinois
55. Seattle - OG Josh Beekman, Boston College
56. Denver - CB Chris Houston, Arkansas
57. Philadelphia - SS Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech
58. New Orleans - ILB H.B. Blades, Pittsburgh
59. NY Jets - RB Kenny Irons, Auburn
60. New England - FS Eric Weddle, Utah
61. Baltimore - RB Tony Hunt, Penn State
62. San Diego - DE Victor Abiamiri, Notre Dame
63. Chicago - OT Ryan Harris, Notre Dame
64. Tampa Bay (*IND) - DT Brandon Mebane, California
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I guess you did what was expected and what most fans would have done. I would have selected Jamaal Anderson. Teamed w/ Mario says you have less than 3 secs to pass and puts fear into every QB in the NFL.
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RD 2 PICK: AARON ROSS, CB, UT


In R2, my choices were limited. What it came down to was who was a need and a good value. I couldn't find any DTs, DEs, OL, or LBs worth taking who were worth it. What it came down to was where was the better prospect: at CB or FS? At CB, there was Aaron Ross and Chris Houston, at FS there was Eric Weddle and Meriweather. While I like all 4, I felt Ross was the best. Houston is all speed it seems, and Brandon "Stomp" Meriweather has tremendous character issues. Therfore, it came down to Weddle and Ross. While I like Weddle, I feel more comfortable with Ross who has more upside at the next level. He has good size, a ballhawk, and plays fast (faster than he's timed). People question his speed and his experience, but he never really gets beat deep and had to sit behind Vasher, Griffin, and Brown (before he jumped past Brown). He has a good head on his shoulders, is a CB who can make plays, and the best DB at the pick in my opinion.
I won't talk much about the rest of your post, but this part is just off to me. Ross is not the best prospect on the board, and deffinitly not the best CB on the board, regardless of what you are looking for. If you want a man coverage guy, Houston is the guy (he should have been the pick there if you were locked onto CB), Hughes is a zone guy who makes plays. If you wanted to go the PR/Nickle back then I guess you made the right choice. If you watched any tape at all this year of Ross, you would see that he played himself out of the 2nd round. He was burned deep frequently, so I don't know what exactly you are talking about. He has great speed, and is a track star, but he can't translate that speed to the field and isn't good enough in other areas to warrent our pick. Houston or Merriwether would be the best option, with Houston having a better character by far. Houston also is a VERY physical CB who has good size and GREAT strength. He played straight man in the SEC, and he should do the same in the NFL.
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The only thing I liked about it was that you picked a defensive player in 1 of the two picks unlike some other mocks.
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D. Revis at #5 for Arizona is way too high.
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Levi doesnt fit our system. Thats the problem i see with him.

I think we messed up in this mock by passing on Leron Landry in the 1st and i feel Houston/Ross is a good pick for us. Since there wasnt any good OL talent worthy of this pick and i need to go back and look at the DT prospects before i quote on that
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I won't talk much about the rest of your post, but this part is just off to me. Ross is not the best prospect on the board, and deffinitly not the best CB on the board, regardless of what you are looking for. If you want a man coverage guy, Houston is the guy (he should have been the pick there if you were locked onto CB), Hughes is a zone guy who makes plays. If you wanted to go the PR/Nickle back then I guess you made the right choice. If you watched any tape at all this year of Ross, you would see that he played himself out of the 2nd round. He was burned deep frequently, so I don't know what exactly you are talking about. He has great speed, and is a track star, but he can't translate that speed to the field and isn't good enough in other areas to warrent our pick. Houston or Merriwether would be the best option, with Houston having a better character by far. Houston also is a VERY physical CB who has good size and GREAT strength. He played straight man in the SEC, and he should do the same in the NFL.
Ross looks pretty darn good to me, last time I watched him play.
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1st off, the 1st round came down to Landry and Peterson. I don't have a problem with Jamaal Anderson, I just don't like the idea of putting even more money in our D Line and would rather get a pass rusher later on.

As far as the CB situation goes, I've liked what I've seen fromm Ross. I saw him play vs. OU and Texas Tech, and he looked good both times. He's a solid player and I've liked like what I've seen in terms of potential and talent. As for Houston, I've never seen him play and don't know much about him so instead of making a stupid and risky decision on someone I've never seen or heard much about, I went with someone I have. BTW, Meriweather has serious character issues (returned fire on someone shooting at his roommate, also the obvious stomp). He also just measured in a 5'11" 192 which isn't very big.
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1st off, the 1st round came down to Landry and Peterson. I don't have a problem with Jamaal Anderson, I just don't like the idea of putting even more money in our D Line and would rather get a pass rusher later on.
You are not going to find a premier pass rushers in the later RDs and you are not going to improve the pass rush either. Take a hint from the Bears and build the defense. People don't want to put money in the DLine. Think of Reggie White on one side and Julius Peppers on the other, this might change your way of thinking.
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You are not going to find a premier pass rushers in the later RDs and you are not going to improve the pass rush either. Take a hint from the Bears and build the defense. People don't want to put money in the DLine. Think of Reggie White on one side and Julius Peppers on the other, this might change your way of thinking.
Sold. I'll take Anderson.
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You are not going to find a premier pass rushers in the later RDs and you are not going to improve the pass rush either. Take a hint from the Bears and build the defense. People don't want to put money in the DLine. Think of Reggie White on one side and Julius Peppers on the other, this might change your way of thinking.
I am, I'm looking for the Mark Anderson of this draft who is a pass rush specialist! Also, Alex Brown was taken in the 4th, Adewale Ogunleye was traded for Booker and a 3rd (in a sense, 2 3rds), and Mark Anderson in the 5th, why can't we look for people later on like Chicago? Personally, I'd rather them go after a FA (if we're lucky Dewayne White from TB, this guy is a beast!), but don't mind Anderson. I just don't agree with the idea of having a rediculous amount of money tied up in the position.
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I am, I'm looking for the Mark Anderson of this draft who is a pass rush specialist! Also, Alex Brown was taken in the 4th, Adewale Ogunleye was traded for Booker and a 3rd (in a sense, 2 3rds), and Mark Anderson in the 5th, why can't we look for people later on like Chicago? Personally, I'd rather them go after a FA (if we're lucky Dewayne White from TB, this guy is a beast!), but don't mind Anderson. I just don't agree with the idea of having a rediculous amount of money tied up in the position.
It is very simple, if anybody new MA was going to player he is, MA would have been a first RD pick. That is what you call "luck of the draw." How many sack leaders do find in the 5th vs busts? How much mula do you think would be tied up in DW and AP? There are 2 DE positions vs 1 RB. It is 6 of one half dozen of the other. IF opposing QBs have less than 3 secs to pass it is worth it. Trying to find it in the 5th rd you have better odds in Vegas.

Mark Anderson is playing on a heck of defense with some very good players so he gets a lot of opportunities. Most DEs would love to line up next to Tommie Harris.
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I like this draft alot. The Revis pick by the cards is a longshot but it could happen. But all an all I give it an A
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Roughly speaking, our starting D Line would have $105 million between 4 players (Mario around 54, Weaver at 26, TJ at about 10, Anderson would be about 15 assuming at least a 15% increase compared to last years 8th overall) if they make it to the end of their contracts (TJ better not). DW is at 24, Peterson would be at 15. Considering Williams might not even be with the team next season, its safer to say more is tied up in the D Line per player than per RB.

Again, I don't have a problem with Anderson, I just feel that DE can be adressed in other circumstances (FA or past R1). Quite a few sucessful DEs have been taken outside of the 1st round and I don't see why that's not possible for us. Hell, we haven't even been thru FA yet so by the time that ends we'll be looking at everything from a completely different prospective considering how much will change.
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If it turned out the way you say, the sacks sure better be there, or this will be another stinker pick, which we have had way too many of already.

In the second round it would severely dissappoint me if OLT Joe Staley weren't there for us. We stil have just a little maintenance work to do on the offensive line too, you know.
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Roughly speaking, our starting D Line would have $105 million between 4 players (Mario around 54, Weaver at 26, TJ at about 10, Anderson would be about 15 assuming at least a 15% increase compared to last years 8th overall) if they make it to the end of their contracts (TJ better not). DW is at 24, Peterson would be at 15. Considering Williams might not even be with the team next season, its safer to say more is tied up in the D Line per player than per RB.
Based on your numbers
RB(1 position) = 39 for starter and backup
DE (2 positions) = 69/2 = 34.5 per position starter
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