Is The Writing On The Wall??? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

jdm12 · 01-18-2007

Now that Kyle Shanahan has been promoted to QB coach, is DC as good as gone? One of the reasons Kubes was hired was to fix DC. One year into Project DC someone else is taking over. I also find it ironic that of all the QB's and receivers DC was the only person Kyle was unable to get a hold of.

Or was Kubes wearing to many hats and finally farming out other team duties?

J

**Vinny** · 01-18-2007

I guess this beats promoting the TE coach to QB coach....I guess.

Reddevil63 · 01-18-2007

Or a crappy o-line coach to a worse o-coordinator

Coach C. · 01-18-2007

Lil Kyle was offense quality control at Tampa Bay working with QBs and Receivers. I think it fits, and it means that now Kyle will be the go between for Carr and Kubiak. Kubiak will still be the main QB coach, HC, and OC, but this allows him to focus more on fixing or improving whatever QB we have and managing gameplans and games better. We will need a Receivers coach.

cj5776 · 01-18-2007

I am on the other side of the coin, lil Kyle (love the nickname) and Carr seem to click together and if Carr was going to be out the door, an experinced Qb coach would have been named. I do not think Lil Kyle would be asked to show Plummer the ropes and take a rookie QB under his wing. No matter how much of a future guru the guy is, that is too much of him.

**HOU-TEX** · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by Coach C.

Lil Kyle was offense quality control at Tampa Bay working with QBs and Receivers. I think it fits, and it means that now Kyle will be the go between for Carr and Kubiak. Kubiak will still be the main QB coach, HC, and OC, but this allows him to focus more on fixing or improving whatever QB we have and managing gameplans and games better. We will need a Receivers coach.

I agree, but I'm concerned about who the O-line coach is going to be. Other than QB, it needs alot of coaching. IMO, we need an experienced coach for our O-line. Not only to coach the remaining squad, but to blend in whoever we pick up in the offseason without disrupting whatever cohesiveness we had, if any.

old football fan · 01-18-2007

agree, but I'm concerned about who the O-line coach is going to beJohn Benton is the Oline Coach

**HoustonFrog** · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by cj5776

I am on the other side of the coin, lil Kyle (love the nickname) and Carr seem to click together and if Carr was going to be out the door, an experinced Qb coach would have been named. I do not think Lil Kyle would be asked to show Plummer the ropes and take a rookie QB under his wing. No matter how much of a future guru the guy is, that is too much of him.

Actually moving a guy who is young and who has little experience would fit perfect with a guy like Plummer or a vet because it would be less teaching and more on the job learning and talking.

Porky · 01-18-2007

Great. A QB coach who is still wearing a bib and working toward eating solid foods.

cj5776 · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Actually moving a guy who is young and who has little experience would fit perfect with a guy like Plummer or a vet because it would be less teaching and more on the job learning and talking.

I just don't think a vet would listen to a 27 year old QB coach and I don't think Kubes would put lil Kyle in that situation.

**HoustonFrog** · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by cj5776

I just don't think a vet would listen to a 27 year old QB coach and I don't think Kubes would put lil Kyle in that situation.

He has to learn sometime. Add to that, why would a 27 year old QB coach be able to fix a QB who has been broke on our team. Honestly, I'm not going to read to much on either side of it. I'm sure they are just putting pieces in place because of guys leaving, etc.

**Vinny** · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by cj5776

I just don't think a vet would listen to a 27 year old QB coach and I don't think Kubes would put lil Kyle in that situation.

What do you think Carr is after half a decade of starting in the NFL? Carr has nearly 80 NFL starts.

Honoring Earl 34 · 01-18-2007

This means Chris Sims is coming to Houston .

hollywood_texan · 01-18-2007

I think you guys maybe reading too much into this.

Kubiak may have a good relationship with Kyle and Kyle understands and listens well to Kubiak and follows the orders to the T. Basically, this could be just really an assistant position to the QB coach while he carries a bigger title to pad his resume.

I guess what I am saying is, I don't think this really means Carr is staying or going.

There are 32 teams in the league, there are a shortage of experienced and well qualified players and coaches. Every team is going to have some young and inexperienced people at key positions.

cj5776 · 01-18-2007

Maybe it is nothing more than my gut speaking... Plummer has been successful on a level Carr has not. I just do not see Kubes promoting Kyle if Plummer is coming. With Carr footwork, confidence, and pocket presence has been his biggest downfalls. I feel Kyle was given this position with the intention that he was the most qualified to deliver in those specific areas. Plus they seem to have the relationship to accomplish those objectives.

I apologize in advance that this posting is nothing more than my gut and is not based on any factual evidence.

**edo783** · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by cj5776

I apologize in advance that this posting is nothing more than my gut and is not based on any factual evidence.

And 99.9999 percent of the post here are based on facts? This board is about the biggest tea reading seminar going.

Hulk75 · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by Vinny

I guess this beats promoting the TE coach to QB coach....I guess.

No flippin Kidding........

Speaking of Kyle, did any of you see Dre blow up at Kyle in the last game vs the browns. It was after the "PI" call were they said he pushed off. Dre was not happy and when Dre is mad and you have a young coach trying to talk to him that is just not going to work.

I hope they get a good WR coach in here thats not younger than Dre and knows what he is talking about.

Anyone know of any????????

texans83 · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by Hulk75

No flippin Kidding........

Speaking of Kyle, did any of you see Dre blow up at Kyle in the last game vs the browns. It was after the "PI" call were they said he pushed off. Dre was not happy and when Dre is mad and you have a young coach trying to talk to him that is just not going to work.

I hope they get a good WR coach in here thats not younger than Dre and knows what he is talking about.

Anyone know of any????????

Yea its going to be hard for lil kyle to really get on to QBs when they do something wrong, or try to tell them what to do

A Texan · 01-18-2007

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

This means Chris Sims is coming to Houston .

Not likely even though Simms and Shanahan are the best of friends. Simms just signed a new contract with TB last month and loves it there.

wrestler4life · 01-18-2007

I don't see him being too young for the position. Coaches at all positions are getting youger. How old was Bill Cowher when he became head coach? Like 34, 36?
Sounds like Kyle is right in line as far as age goes.

01-18-2007	#1
jdm12 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Is The Writing On The Wall??? Now that Kyle Shanahan has been promoted to QB coach, is DC as good as gone? One of the reasons Kubes was hired was to fix DC. One year into Project DC someone else is taking over. I also find it ironic that of all the QB's and receivers DC was the only person Kyle was unable to get a hold of. Or was Kubes wearing to many hats and finally farming out other team duties? J

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Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? Lil Kyle was offense quality control at Tampa Bay working with QBs and Receivers. I think it fits, and it means that now Kyle will be the go between for Carr and Kubiak. Kubiak will still be the main QB coach, HC, and OC, but this allows him to focus more on fixing or improving whatever QB we have and managing gameplans and games better. We will need a Receivers coach. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

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cj5776 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 363 Rep Power: 69	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? I am on the other side of the coin, lil Kyle (love the nickname) and Carr seem to click together and if Carr was going to be out the door, an experinced Qb coach would have been named. I do not think Lil Kyle would be asked to show Plummer the ropes and take a rookie QB under his wing. No matter how much of a future guru the guy is, that is too much of him. __________________ Let's begin again with Quinn or Ginn

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old football fan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Age: 64 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 8	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? agree, but I'm concerned about who the O-line coach is going to beJohn Benton is the Oline Coach

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01-18-2007	#14
hollywood_texan Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 3,010 Rep Power: 1079	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? I think you guys maybe reading too much into this. Kubiak may have a good relationship with Kyle and Kyle understands and listens well to Kubiak and follows the orders to the T. Basically, this could be just really an assistant position to the QB coach while he carries a bigger title to pad his resume. I guess what I am saying is, I don't think this really means Carr is staying or going. There are 32 teams in the league, there are a shortage of experienced and well qualified players and coaches. Every team is going to have some young and inexperienced people at key positions.

01-18-2007	#15
cj5776 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 363 Rep Power: 69	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? Maybe it is nothing more than my gut speaking... Plummer has been successful on a level Carr has not. I just do not see Kubes promoting Kyle if Plummer is coming. With Carr footwork, confidence, and pocket presence has been his biggest downfalls. I feel Kyle was given this position with the intention that he was the most qualified to deliver in those specific areas. Plus they seem to have the relationship to accomplish those objectives. I apologize in advance that this posting is nothing more than my gut and is not based on any factual evidence. __________________ Let's begin again with Quinn or Ginn

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wrestler4life Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camarillo, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 318 Rep Power: 9	Re: Is The Writing On The Wall??? I don't see him being too young for the position. Coaches at all positions are getting youger. How old was Bill Cowher when he became head coach? Like 34, 36? Sounds like Kyle is right in line as far as age goes. __________________ "Be still, Taggert, be still!" Hedey (That's Hedley!) Lamarr

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