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Old 01-12-2007   #1
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Default Jason Babin?

Anyone think he'll be back next year, or do you WANT him back?

I think he and Mario could be a solid pair of disruptive pass rushers at DE, and I'm still on this guy's bandwagon.
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Old 01-12-2007   #2
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

Never been on the Babin bandwagon.

It may not be him, I just still have a sour taste of all the draft picks we gave up to get him. But if I had a choice, I'd obviously go with Peek over Babin.
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Never been on the Babin bandwagon.

It may not be him, I just still have a sour taste of all the draft picks we gave up to get him. But if I had a choice, I'd obviously go with Peek over Babin.
Agreed! Even though they're both average IMO, I'd take Peek over Babin as well. I just hope Kubiak hasn't lost faith in him due to not being able to stay healthy.
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I'm on the Babin bandwagon. Kinda lonely.
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

I guess if I had to pick one or the other, I'd go with Babin. Peek's got one hell of a motor, but his tires seem to go flat pretty often.
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pretty messed up that the 3rd rd pick is comparable to the 1st rder.

thanks again cass.
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I'm still waiting for more from Babin.
As an OLB he was good against the run. As an End he's good against the pass.
I hope he finds his niche, that's for sure, because he wasn't cheap.
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

Babin will be here next year, not sure he will be the starter. I look for a the Texans to draft a Premier rushing DE w/ pic 1. Peek is a FA and probably be gone, I don't see spending the bucks he will want to bring him back.
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

On Babin's Wagon..
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

I think Babin will be able to get 8-10 sacks next year as our 3rd down pass rush specialist if we can pick up a good dt during the offseason and the d-line isn't gutted by injuries like last season.
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

I'm in between about Babin. He's just never impressed me, even though I've really wanted him to succeed. Although he was our sack leader this season...which doesn't really say all that much...
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

Both players are caught, through no falut of their own, in being in a bad position. Peek can't play with his knuckles off the ground. And Babin's
predraft reports of him being the lost son of Kevin Green were greatly exagerated. They were both terrible reaches by an uninformed, incompedent staff. TBS, they are two warm bodies that produce. My thought is does Babin have any trade value what so ever ? Are there any teams that would gamble with him as a 3-4 guy who was coached up poorly here. We know he can rush the paser a bit. Just wondering if that's worth an early day two pick ? Peek is what he is. High motor, no einstein. Basically all you can do with him is turn him loose to rush the passer. I can see them by passing the the stud RB and fixing the Babin/Peek end with the eight. One thing for sure, if we do resign one of them...it's going to be cheap.
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J. Babin is a good, solid player (team leader with 5 sacks), but I think we gave up too many picks to the the Titans! I think he has to have 14-15 sacks or more next year to justify the many picks we gave up. We shall see! GO TEXANS!
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Default Re: Jason Babin?

I think he will eventually end up with a 3-4 team like the one that drafted him.
He is a versatile player who has good lateral pursuit and tackling skills while also being a descent pass rusher. And his optimum size where he's most effective is in the 250-255 range and not 265-270. In other words, he's just
a bit undersized to be and NFL 4-3 DE.
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I'm not particularly fond of him but I'm quite sure he'll be back. He's a decent pass rusher although he's pretty wretched against the run. He provided a decent pass rush at times this year and he's not particularly expensive yet, not to mention I'm pretty sure he costs us more on the 2007 cap to get rid of than to keep, so I think he'll be here. There is an outside chance he gets beat out for a roster spot in training camp, but he'll at least be around to then.
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peek over babin any day of the week...i like what peek brings to the table in terms of effort, there was a reason babin was benched when capers was around...
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Anyone think he'll be back next year, or do you WANT him back?

I think he and Mario could be a solid pair of disruptive pass rushers at DE, and I'm still on this guy's bandwagon.
he quietly had a decent yr as a pass rusher. nobody talks about him. i would be in favor of giving him an increased role at DE next season. problem is where does weaver go?
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Babin is too slow as an OLB and too much of a liability against the run as a DE.

Peek has the athleticism and fire that you look for but has no discipline and gets injured too much. Neither one should be much more than a decent backup

More wasted picks. Cut your losses and move on....JMO.
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peek over babin any day of the week...i like what peek brings to the table in terms of effort, there was a reason babin was benched when capers was around...
It was called an injury. While he was out with his injury, Orr took advantage of his opportunity and earned the starting position.
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Babin is too slow as an OLB and too much of a liability against the run as a DE.

Peek has the athleticism and fire that you look for but has no discipline and gets injured too much. Neither one should be much more than a decent backup

More wasted picks. Cut your losses and move on....JMO.
Or if they can be resigned for a good price keep them for backups until the Texans can replace them.
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