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Old 10-12-2004   #21
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if we are going to draft a back.. id like us to do it in the first. Im tired of questionable RBs... give me a sure thing.. like David Carr or Andre Johnson. Preferrably someone big and very hard to tackle. Ronnie Brown sounds nice.

If there is one thing about this front office that i like its that every pick we make in the first round has been solid. We havent made any bad decisions.. not yet anyway.
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It's unreal how we can be 3rd and 1 and not pick up 1st down with a run. Is that DD or the offensive line? Car will also put up horrible numbers if the line is playing well, we've seen that already. We seem to be more effective in 3 wr sets than 2 TE ones. I'd love to see us start a game like we finished against Minnesota, then maybe we can get a lead......and then run out the clock with nothing but conversative plays.....and oh.....oh, that was last year against the Jets. Maybe iI'll just keep quiet and see what surprises the coaches have this week.
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I see us using our 2 third round picks to trade up in the draft and grabbing a 1st round caliber rb that hopefully slips down a little bit, if none of our backs step up this year and grabs the job. Another thing though is DD could be going through the sophmore slump like many players do so the team might be patient with him and see how the whole situation pans out. We have so many needs on this team though. I swear I was really excited about our lines at the begining of this season, but I have been greatly disapointed. The season is still young however so hopefully they can turn this around, If the don't Charlie is going to be a busy man. BTW does anybody know what round Chris Brown was taken in because that guy is a stud and nobody in Tennesse even remebers Eddie.
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BTW does anybody know what round Chris Brown was taken in because that guy is a stud and nobody in Tennesse even remebers Eddie.
The end of the third round. The three that went before him are McGahee, Johnson, and Musa Smith. Hmmmm... Maybe we don't need to spend a first or second on a RB. In 2002 the only RB's drafted in the first round were William Green and T.J. Duckett.
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The way this coaching staff uses their rbs we need to have a big workhorse type back with good speed that can handle the load, because DD is just to small and hasn't proven that he can take the beating of a whole season of carries, hes already missed 2 games this season.
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I agree with the general consensus that DD is a RUNNING BACK, not a reciever. We are not the Chargers, our runningback does not have to make up 50% of our offense. Let DD run the ball, let Carr throw to his recievers. No more of these quick dump offs to DD. If anything, have Miller as Carr's "blanket" rather than DD out of the backfield.

But DD is still our back guys. He's the best RB we have and we need him. I didn't see the Vickings game (had to listen through the radio), but why couldn't we run the ball? I'm assuming our O-line couldn't create holes to run through (like at Arrowhead). I've seen DD throughout and it's hard to believe that he's missed a step this season. He is NOT an Anthony Thomas.
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It's unreal how we can be 3rd and 1 and not pick up 1st down with a run. Is that DD or the offensive line? Car will also put up horrible numbers if the line is playing well, we've seen that already. We seem to be more effective in 3 wr sets than 2 TE ones. I'd love to see us start a game like we finished against Minnesota, then maybe we can get a lead......and then run out the clock with nothing but conversative plays.....and oh.....oh, that was last year against the Jets. Maybe iI'll just keep quiet and see what surprises the coaches have this week.
He didn't get sacked in the Oakland game and put up some nice numbers. I can't believe that Carr plays better when the O-line is playing crappy.
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Darren Sproles. That little bugger can run!
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Darren Sproles. That little bugger can run!
Sproles can run every other game, but on the odd (or is it even?) weeks he runs worse than syrup on a winter day in Minnesota.
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I dont think we should put down dom too much just after a few games. He has had some injuries this season and once he gets fully recovered I think he will be back to his normal stuff. Remember last season when everyone was saying how we got the back of the future? Let him get to 100% and if he is still not doing that well then we can have some comments.
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i could be wrong and usually am but here's my forecast for this sunday.
i think they will once again run domanick to start it out (first quarter) and then use a bunch of slant passes (gaffney & armstrong) and short tight end plays to open up the run late in the first half. then they will come out firing deep in the third quarter only to let domanick run in the fourth since we'll have the lead by a tremendous margin and we'll of course want to run out the clock. i say that domanick has no more than 3 receptions but reaches the century marker.

i can't tell if this is laughable or probable. sorry.
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Sproles has turned into a fumbling machine.
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Kay Jay Harris is the answer
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Last year Harris backed up Quincy Wilson at WV. Wilson was drafted by the Falcons in the seventh round, and is currently on the practice squad. I know Harris is a good college back, but he could'nt beat out a guy who's on the Falcons practice squad. Plus he has had some nagging injury lately.
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I dont think we should put down dom too much just after a few games. He has had some injuries this season and once he gets fully recovered I think he will be back to his normal stuff. Remember last season when everyone was saying how we got the back of the future? Let him get to 100% and if he is still not doing that well then we can have some comments.
I never said Davis was a franchise back.

The same thing happened last year (read the stats): http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zon...read.php?t=909
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The problem with the DD haters is the same thing with the Clinton Portis lovers--oversimplification. DD and Portis do well with good blocking. Look at the games that DD did well in and the OL was producing something--the one constant for DD is he will probably get 1-2 yards after what most RB's would get on 2nd effort. In the games that DD has done poorly in it is obvious there are no running lanes. Portis did great for 2 years in Denver averaging 5.5 ypc. Now, take out the first run of the season this year and he is under 3 ypc. IMO both backs will make the most out of what they are given (Portis more on breakaway runs and DD more on yards after contact but that makes the results even more stark) but you have to give them something to work with.

So if the blocking explains DD & Portis' running this year, the only DD issue is the dump-down passes. REAL SIMPLE FOLKS--he doesn't call those so they don't justify making him a 3rd down only back, calling for Wells, etc.--the check-offs are 1000% the responsibility of Palmer/Carr. DD releases and goes to the area designated and then catches the ball if thrown to him--and very ably since he averages over 10 ypc on them. So, JMO but their are fair criticsms of not getting good progressions from Palmer/Carr, but they shouldn't be laid at DD's feet.

One last thought, someone want to conjecture what DD would have had yardage wise behind Denver's OL last year, or KC's? Care to conjecture on what Portis or Holmes would have had behind ours? Folks have a real tendency to say he is no Portis or Holmes--I agree, I say he is a DD and they aren't him. Evidently Portis isn't himself in DC.

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... IMO both backs will make the most out of what they are given (Portis more on breakaway runs and DD more on yards after contact but that makes the results even more stark) but you have to give them something to work with...
I agree with your post, but can't leave any comparison of Portis and Davis without commenting on the attitude of the two. I feel that Davis is a team player and will continue to work hard to improve and to help the team. Portis' attitude makes me nervous.
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I agree with your post, but can't leave any comparison of Portis and Davis without commenting on the attitude of the two. I feel that Davis is a team player and will continue to work hard to improve and to help the team. Portis' attitude makes me nervous.
There is a huge difference IMO between Portis/TO who are motivated to be recognized as the great players they think they already are (scream at coaches, give interviews blaming the obvious play-calling, etc.) and DD/AJ who quietly show dedication to being the best than can and helping their team.

Anybody want to give an over/under on the who yells at a coach on the sideline first DD vs. Portis or TO vs. AJ?
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thank you infantry for being pateint enough to post what ive been thinking since the DD hating began after his less than expected start of season. just letting you know your not alone
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Davis is probable running a bit tenative right now because of the early fumbles. He should get past that. Plus he wasn't quite 100% last week. Davis should be a compliment to this offense and not the focal point. With his receiving skills he adds more to the O than Wells.

Portis looks overated at this point. Take a way his first run of the year, 64 yd TD, and he hasn't done anything as stated in an early post. This zone blocking scheme being used by Houston will make average backs good and good backs great and if ya have a great back you can see 2,000 yards rushing in this system.
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