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Old 01-06-2007   #1
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Default C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

A friend at work & I, were talking about the draft & free agency this year, as it relates to the Texans. We're both on opposite sides of the QB issue, so we avoided talking about that again. Neither one of us wanted to argue with a brick wall anymore.

Anyway, we focused on the defensive side of the ball & more specifically, the secondary. We both agreed that we need a FS & CB. However, he stated that he believes Brown would make a better SS than Earl. While I have no strong opinions either way, I must admit a little disappointment in Earl's performance this year. Statistically, they were about the same, but Earl seemed to be rather quite on the field, while Brown seemed to always be around the ball. I believe Brown has better speed, but Earl has a little more size.

So, I ask your opinion on the subject. Do you feel Brown would be the better SS, or would Earl be? Assuming, of course, we take a FS in the draft.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

I like Earl...C.C just bites on play action way too much and Earl is a better tackler
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

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I like Earl...C.C just bites on play action way too much and Earl is a better tackler
Both of our safeties bite on play action.... that's why they are both better suited to SS.... they are both good tacklers... I think Glenn Earl has the edge here. If our front 7 were better against the run, then our corners, and safeties can play a little looser.

I'd be fine with playing CC at SS. but not over Earl. If we can make Earl a LB then I'd go with CC at SS.

Surely Glen Earl & Demeco at LB would make our LB corps small, and we'd quite possibly get run over by every team in the NFL. But Glenn Earl & Demeco are such good tacklers, I'd risk it.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

Neither make me say, "OOH. He's a supergood player". Right now Earl. But neither should be starting
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

Earl... he will make big plays when talent is around him. Go put some notre dame 2003-2004 tape on. You'll be impressed. Big time players make big time plays in big games. Also Earl is a better tackler and is a smarter player. I have seen CC brown get beat deep a lot... I haven't seen earl, but I haven't seen Earl make a lot of big plays yet either.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

I've always maintained that both these guys are natural Strong Safeties - and I think that both of them have their plus points. I'd like to see them used as 1 and 2 on the depth chart at SS. I like CC's speed and nose for the ball carrier but Earl sure can hit hard. He just can't cover for crap.

For either of them to play well though they need to be surrounded by two good corners and a quality FS. D-Rob is fine, although I think he's a better CB2 than CB1 - we need a shutdown like Samuel or Clements at CB1 and a Landry-type player at FS who just has a natural feel for his piece of turf and how to play it.

Wouldn't it be superb if we had all of that in place for next season? And with a couple of big-time OLBs around DeMeco to solidify the front 7. I'll be very interested to see if they do try to bulk Earl up a little and give him some reps at linebacker. He'd have to be better than what we have there just now.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

Earl, definitely. Much more of a playmaker than C.C., which isn't saying much as I only recall C.C. making one play, which was the INT versus the Browns.
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C.C. for sure...you see him that last game? Thats more than Earl did.
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C.C. for sure...you see him that last game? Thats more than Earl did.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

He got an interception and picked up a fumble and did really good
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

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He got an interception and picked up a fumble and did really good
What else has he done in the past 2 years?
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

i already posted a thread exactly like this one, last season, and i believe that the fans will stick with Glenn Earl

personally i like C.C. Brown, but i know hes not better then Glenn Earl, i just dont want our starter 2 be a player that was injured because he got sucker punched.....
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i already posted a thread exactly like this one, last season, and i believe that the fans will stick with Glenn Earl

personally i like C.C. Brown, but i know hes not better then Glenn Earl, i just dont want our starter 2 be a player that was injured because he got sucker punched.....
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

don't forget that cc is a military reserve. he could be asked to leave @ any time.
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I like them both but I think Earl has the edge. Man that kid can lay the wood on people.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

I give it to Earl as well becuase he seems to be the better fit at SS, but I definitely wouldn't mind competition to make sure we're starting the right guy!
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

well one thing is for sure...we're loaded at SS. To draft another one with a first round pick makes no sense to me.

If I got a vote, I move C.C. to SS and dangle Earl as trade bait for draft picks. Just me...thought I saw CC make some decent plays down the strech. Niether one is a free Saftey. So we get one of the studly CBs via free agency...does Petie get a look at FS ? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

Physically, I agree that both players are pretty much the same w/ Earl having the slight advantage in the tackling department. I think Earl is a more intelligent and instinctive player than CC.

Before this season, I would have been okay w/ either at SS. However, this season has caused me to absolutely despise CC. He makes too many mistakes and has had me yelling at the tv on numerous occasions. IMO, he's been so bad this year that he's brought back memories of...dare I say it....Matt Stevens.

The ONLY way that I would be okay w/ him at SS is if we sign a good FA CB, acquire a good FS, and develop Earl into a good LB.
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Default Re: C.C.Brown vs. Glenn Earl at SS

Personally I am not too fond of either of them. They both seem like nice backup SS's but low-end starters in the NFL. I did like the hit Earl had on Shockey though. That is definitely memorable. Both are liabilities in coverage (Earl more because of lack of speed and Brown moreso because of lack of field awareness).

We cannot have All Stars in every position, so I am content with the two of them competing for the SS spot. I really don't even care which one wins it in 2007.
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Earl, definitely. Much more of a playmaker than C.C., which isn't saying much as I only recall C.C. making one play, which was the INT versus the Browns.
That is what I was thinking, CC single handedly kept the Colts in their last game verses the Texans. Not saying Earl is the best, but he is solid, and Brown is too much of a liability to me.
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