Assuming Carr is done in Houston who is the upgrade?

[Rightnow]

I keep here echoes of "anyone but Carr!". Let's just say for a moment that Carr is finished in Houston, and we don't even get a seventh rounder for him. He is simply fired.

So whom do you put in his place? Whom is a true long term upgrade? If he isn't a long term upgrade, then what is the game plan for the long term?

I'd like some answers other than "get rid of Carr." That is only half of the issue the other half is trying to upgrade the position. Remember the job of a GM is to upgrade the position, not to just fire players.

Keep in mind too that if you put in an average vet like Sage or Jake then we could go 8-8, 9-7, 7-9, or so, stopping us from drafting a stud first round QB like VY or Lineirt

What I'm getting at is I want to read realistic solutions to our QB problem.

The solution is easy...

Play Sage until we draft a QB that Kubes can groom....

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

The solution is easy...

Play Sage until we draft a QB that Kubes can groom....

seems simple enough to me. van pelt knows the system and can maintain backup duties during that time.

[threetoedpete]

ABC....Anyone But Carr.

[TEXANS84]

Do we need 8,543 different threads about Carr?

[SnakeOilTanker]

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Do we need 8,543 different threads about Carr?

looks like it

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Do we need 8,543 different threads about Carr?

of course not...

We need 8,544

Originally Posted by threetoedpete

ABC....Anyone But Carr.

I don't understand your line of thinking...

I'll say it again:

If your girlfriend cheats on you are you going to stay with her because you're scared you can't find anyone better ?

Or are you gonna jump into the ocean and go fishing ?

You don't stick with someone that isn't treating you right because you think that you can't do better....If you know what you have isn't good, you have to explore and fish around until you find what you're looking for....Otherwise you'll be stuck with that trash forever because you will never know whats out there...

[canadiantexan]

Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

The solution is easy...

Play Sage until we draft a QB that Kubes can groom....

are you trying to get the first overall in 08... or do you actually think Sage can get it done. You know there is a reason he is a career backup. Not saying Carr is the awnser but Sage certainly is not.

Originally Posted by canadiantexan

are you trying to get the first overall in 08... or do you actually think Sage can get it done. You know there is a reason he is a career backup. Not saying Carr is the awnser but Sage certainly is not.

Just like there was a reason Tom Brady was selected late in the draft ?

Just like there was a reason Marques Colston was darn near Mr. irrelevant ?

Just like there was a reason Tony Romo WAS a career backup ?


Give me a break....

[TexanFanInCC]

i can somewhat buy that argument considering how he was behind gus ferrotte on the depth chart last yr at miami. however, u are what you show on the field, and sage has shown himself to be a very capable QB, especially if kubiak involved him in the gameplanning process late in the season. he played a significant amount of time in only one game. we saw quite a bit, but that was when tennessee's defense couldnt stop anybody. they got better as the season progressed, but still. i would like to see more from sage besides what he did vs a crappy defense at the time and in the preseason. a great majority of this team is "extremely young". i think we need to draft a QB with our second pick and do what the colts did with manning, throw him out there right away and let him grow with the rest of the team.

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by canadiantexan

are you trying to get the first overall in 08... or do you actually think Sage can get it done. You know there is a reason he is a career backup. Not saying Carr is the awnser but Sage certainly is not.

When Sage comes in, passes get completed for 20+ yards. The ball moves down the field.

That in itself is reason to start him.

[jerek]

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Do we need 8,543 different threads about Carr?

Seriously. This is maybe the tenth new thread started in the last three days about replacing Carr, let alone the usual criticism, "analysis," and all-purpose Carr threads.

I never saw Sage play until he arrived in Houston, so I can't really comment about his past...

But the few plays that I have seen, Sage looks like a darn good QB....JMO....

[TexanFanInCC]

i made edits to my last post so b4 yall hammer me, read the edits

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Battle Red Bull

When Sage comes in, passes get completed for 20+ yards. The ball moves down the field.

That in itself is reason to start him.

That's assuming that the Texans are so far behind that the other team (titans) go into their prevent defense? Let's face it, your example comes from a game that wasn't as close as the 28-22 final would suggest. I will say this again. Sage had the opportunity to win the starting QB position in Miami and couldn't do it. Some people are starting pitchers and some are releif pitchers. Sage would be the equivalent of the upper eschelon of releif pitchers (i.e. Trevor Hoffman).

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Do we need 8,543 different threads about Carr?

If you have to ask.........

Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

I don't understand your line of thinking...

I'll say it again:

If your girlfriend cheats on you are you going to stay with her because you're scared you can't find anyone better ?

Or are you gonna jump into the ocean and go fishing ?

You don't stick with someone that isn't treating you right because you think that you can't do better....If you know what you have isn't good, you have to explore and fish around until you find what you're looking for....Otherwise you'll be stuck with that trash forever because you will never know whats out there...

uh..... you aren't having relations with our aquatic friends are you??

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

uh..... you aren't having relations with our aquatic friends are you??

Not any more...

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

That's assuming that the Texans are so far behind that the other team (titans) go into their prevent defense? Let's face it, your example comes from a game that wasn't as close as the 28-22 final would suggest. I will say this again. Sage had the opportunity to win the starting QB position in Miami and couldn't do it. Some people are starting pitchers and some are releif pitchers. Sage would be the equivalent of the upper eschelon of releif pitchers (i.e. Trevor Hoffman).

Sage played more than just the Titans game. JAX has a better defense than the Titans and he moved the ball on them too.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

That's assuming that the Texans are so far behind that the other team (titans) go into their prevent defense? Let's face it, your example comes from a game that wasn't as close as the 28-22 final would suggest. I will say this again. Sage had the opportunity to win the starting QB position in Miami and couldn't do it. Some people are starting pitchers and some are releif pitchers. Sage would be the equivalent of the upper eschelon of releif pitchers (i.e. Trevor Hoffman).

& that makes David a what?? Ball boy??

Just listening to the way Kubiak talks about Sage, I'd be fine with seeiing him Start.... as a matter of fact, if I Kubiak came out today, and said he would start Sage in '07 I bet most fans would be thrilled and excited about it. & Until Miami produces a starting QB, I'm going to believe they didn't know what the heck they had all along.