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Old 01-03-2007   #1
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I know he comes from a gimmicky offense in Hawai'i, but what do you think of him? I haven't seen Hawai'i game on TV, so I don't really have any knowledge about the guy. Is all his production simply because of the offense he's in (kind of like Tech's QB's?) or does he have the talent to succeed? Where do you think he'll get drafted? 2nd day? Late 1st day?
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Well I think he has his request in to the advisory comittee. If he comes out and anouces he's going back, you'll know he isn't being advised that his a top fifteen. I think he's another Kilgler. But a lot of folks on the board love the guy. He ownes the records. You can bet if he comes out, someone will bite.
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I've only seen one game of his and he looked pretty good.
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Well I think he has his request in to the advisory comittee. If he comes out and anouces he's going back, you'll know he isn't being advised that his a top fifteen. I think he's another Kilgler. But a lot of folks on the board love the guy. He ownes the records. You can bet if he comes out, someone will bite.
Oh, I thought he was already a senior. I'd be amazed if a Hawai'i QB was taken in the 1st round.
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Default Re: Colt Brennan?

he's a first rounder if he declares. top 15 pick, maybe top 10.

the only thing brennan has in common with the other system guys is that he's playing in the system. he's far more accurate, makes much fewer mistakes, has an extremely quick release, and is pretty mobile.
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No way Brennan is a top 10 pick this year
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if miami keeps mularkey as OC and quinn and russell are gone, we'd think reaaaal long and hard about taking brennan. or not. hell i have no clue what we're going to do now...
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if miami keeps mularkey as OC and quinn and russell are gone, we'd think reaaaal long and hard about taking brennan. or not. hell i have no clue what we're going to do now...
If they wanted him, they would probably trade down and get an extra pick.
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easier said than done. carolina isn't too far behind, they'd want too.
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I know he comes from a gimmicky offense in Hawai'i, but what do you think of him? I haven't seen Hawai'i game on TV, so I don't really have any knowledge about the guy. Is all his production simply because of the offense he's in (kind of like Tech's QB's?) or does he have the talent to succeed? Where do you think he'll get drafted? 2nd day? Late 1st day?
I'm not especially impressed with him. I think he is better than most QBs that come from a similar system (Timmy Chang, BJ Symons, Kliff Kingsbury, etc.) but I don't see any way of him being a 1st rounder this year so I think he'll go back to school. He's not especially big, has decent mobility, has a fairly strong arm but nothing special, and has good accuracy on his throws. He generally makes pretty good decisions but will occasionally force throws. I think, unlike most other similar QBs that are products of their collegiate system, he can be a solid NFL QB, but I think he will be more of a career backup not a long-term starter, which generally means a 3rd round pick or later. If he did come out this year I don't see him being ranked higher than the 5th best QB in the draft and there is no way that many QBs go in the 1st round this year, plus if I'm not mistaken he's already said he plans to return to school. He could end up being a solid player but I don't think he has a particularly high ceiling of potential.

*edit, now that I recall during the bowl game they said Brennan had said he would hold on for a bit and find out from scouting agencies where he was projected to go and if he was projected high enough he'd come out. I don't think he'll be projected in the 1st round, so I don't see him coming out.
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Link please. I stand to be corrected, but that's not what they said in the bowl game. Paraphrasing...they were building the guy up via June Jones and said he had applied. Building up...they were fawning all over the guy. Going way out fo their way to say he wasn't a systems guy.
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some of the comments coaches and scouts have made about brennan are really astounding. "best player i've ever seen" and stuff like that. you can't just dismiss that.
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While we're waiting to see whether Brennan will come out, as someone who has watched most of Hawaii's games this year, I have to say that Colt is far superior to Timmy Chang, Klingler, etc. He is not a system QB, I believe he played in traditional offenses before coming to Hawaii. He admitted that he did not have a grasp of June Jones' system last year, yet still managed to lead the nation in total offense. This has to be attributed to Brennan's native skills: quick release, mobility in the pocket, being able to throw accurately on the run, better than average foot speed, and ability to make reads quickly and decisively. Thus, he could do well under center as well. (Timmy Chang spent his high school and college years in the spread offense, so maybe he could be accused of being a system QB.) I think the most impressive thing about Colt is his ability to go through his progressions - and then quickly deliver the ball. The second most impressive thing is that he throws a catchable ball - close to perfect spirals every time, and he throws them where the receiver can catch it in stride. He completed over 72.5% of his passes - someone calculated that if the passes dropped were caught, that his competion percentage was more like 82%. He is the most accurate QB I have ever seen. He instills confidence among the players (and fans) that he will find a way to move the chains. Perhaps he doesn't have as much arm strength as Carr, but Brennan can throw deep and throw the out quickly enough, and with more accuracy.

The two knocks on him are his throwing motion and his weight. HIs throwing motion is kinda like Bernie Kosar's, or Flutie at times; Rivers' throwing motion is a little higher. Except for the Purdue game, where he had several balls batted down, it hasn't been that much of a problem, no more than say normal motion QBs. June Jones stated that it would do more harm than good to change the motion. He also noted that Colt makes throws that other QBs can't make due to the motion. Colt can sidearm passes to the flat, steering the ball away from onrushers. I don't think one should change Brennan's motion, any more than one would change Philip Rivers' motion. Brennan acknowledges that he will have to put on at least 20 pounds of muscle to withstand the rigors of the NFL. Thus, another year at Hawaii may help him achieve this goal. His father made an interesting comment along the lines of whether he will gain the weight with another year of college or by standing on the sidelines with a clipboard with an NFL team.

As a Warrior fan, of course I want Colt to return. Truth be told, he gains nothing, football wise, from staying at Hawaii. His statistics speak for themselves. People devalue them because Brennan plays in the WAC or Brennan is in a gimmick offense, etc. But the statistics mean something. Even if you penalized him 10% or 25% on his stats for being in the WAC or being in the run and shoot, he would still have passed for more yards than Smith or Quinn. He went to a prep school for a year after high school and had the Colorado debacle; he will be 24 this year. He faces the Leinhart question, whether his stock could fall with another year. Just hope that he makes the right decision for him.
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