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Old 01-03-2007   #1
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Default I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

28th in takeaways this past season with 22.

If we go Laron Landry at #8 I wont be mad.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

unless joe thomas slips to ya, i think the smart move is defense.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

I would be happy with Landry, Nelson, A. Gaines, or A. Branch, not in any order. I would be a little surprise if they Draft A.P. or M. Lynch, but won't complain. The 2nd rd- the best CB available, or LT! The 3rd rd- the best available LB , RB, or DT! The 4th rd- OG, OT! I even wish QB-Smith if available! Get 1 or 2 FAs- CB, DT, OG! I have a feeling Carr will traded in or waived for cap savings. I think Plummer would be OK on a temp basis & cheap cuz he seem to do well with Coach Kubes. Also Mario will be a BEAST next season after a yr under his belt & healthy, mark my words!
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unless joe thomas slips to ya, i think the smart move is defense.
agreed. if thomas manages to slide to us, we obviously take him without hesitation. if thomas doesnt, our next look needs to be at landry. if neither, i'm not really sure but i keep it on the defensive end ... pass rushing or pass coverage preferably.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

after what kubiak said a few days ago(and before FA) i think we're looking at:

jamarcus russell/brady quinn:vomit:
AP/marshawn
CJ/Jarrett/meachem etc
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personally i think cb/fs are the best value where we're at
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agreed. if thomas manages to slide to us, we obviously take him without hesitation. if thomas doesnt, our next look needs to be at landry. if neither, i'm not really sure but i keep it on the defensive end ... pass rushing or pass coverage preferably.
Or move down, which is what Richard Smith is indicating he wants to do. Which means this isn't a very good year to be locking in on players around the eight.


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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

After the drafts we've had the last two years I'm not going to predict who we're going to pick anymore. All I know is that we have huge holes in our secondary, o-line, and d-line. I'd be happy with a guy like LaRon Landry who can come in and make an impact right away. But who knows what the coaches and gm are thinking at this point or even a few months later. Things change week to week. Someone who looks good now might not look so good next month. I'm just going to sit back and watch this time around...
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Or move down, which is what Richard Smith is indicating he wants to do. Which means this isn't a very good year to be locking in on players around the eight.


Nice post phantom17.
where'd you hear that?
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Or move down, which is what Richard Smith is indicating he wants to do. Which means this isn't a very good year to be locking in on players around the eight.


Nice post phantom17.
i'm almost always for trading down and this year is no exception. if we can get a good deal, i'd be ok with trading down and stockpiling draft picks because we'd be able to add extra "kubiak" players.

however, i feel there's solid talent in the top 10 in need positions (FS, OT most specefically) that we wouldnt be reaching if we stayed put.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

Any chance NE wants to trade down?
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

It was in the chornicle the other day in the post game "game day". You gonna make me dig out the link ?
Jan 3. 2007
Page H5:
time for off season mode:" " I have a lot of confidence in Rick (Richard Smith) and Gary , McNair said. We had a remarkable draft"....Smith who hired CHRISS OLSEN ( our new capoligist) from NFL Management Council,.....

Will try to aquire extra draft choices and restructure contracts.... to free up more room under the cap. " The texans should be 10 to 13 million under the cap."

OK Maddict5 ?
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no its ok.. i always trust posters aged 40+
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no its ok.. i always trust posters aged 40+
Your going to trust Pete? For crying out load he is only 51, just a dang pup!
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

I'm kind of amazed no one is talking about Leon Hall. Pre-combine, he is pegged in mocks to go about where we're drafting and he would be a great complement to Robinson. He plays physical and can play either safety or CB. He kind of reminds me of Michael Huff in that regard.

Of course, I'd rather find a way to get a top talent LT, but if that's not in the stars, then Leon Hall is my favorite candidate (over Landry) for now.
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I'm kind of amazed no one is talking about Leon Hall. Pre-combine, he is pegged in mocks to go about where we're drafting and he would be a great complement to Robinson. He plays physical and can play either safety or CB. He kind of reminds me of Michael Huff in that regard.

Of course, I'd rather find a way to get a top talent LT, but if that's not in the stars, then Leon Hall is my favorite candidate (over Landry) for now.
Judging by some of the posts of our more experenced draft gurus on the board, he didn't have a very good game the other day. TBS, I've been suspicious of the class' over all DB tallent for a while. What I saw of him concidering the compitition I thought he did ok.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

Well, I don't claim to be a draft guru by any means, but the guy has consistently played well against top competition for a couple years now. Landry would be a good pick-up as well, I suppose ... I just prefer a solid CB with a pick that high.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

As of right now I consider Leon Hall the top CB in this draft and would be happy taking him at #8 as long as Adrian Peterson isn't available. I've heard a lot about Darelle Revis and Antoine Cason but haven't seen enough of them yet, plus I'll wait until after the Combine to make any kind of real positional rankings.
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Default Re: I'm down for defense in 1st round still.

I am all for going defense again. Looking at a FS, CB, OLB and DT. Heck if Gaines is there at 8 I would be damn tempted to snap him up.

I think defense is where we have the most glaring weaknesses.

Hopefully our issues on offense especially the line and RB will be fixed by an improvement in health and another off season in the system.
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I am all for going defense again. Looking at a FS, CB, OLB and DT. Heck if Gaines is there at 8 I would be damn tempted to snap him up.

I think defense is where we have the most glaring weaknesses.

Hopefully our issues on offense especially the line and RB will be fixed by an improvement in health and another off season in the system.
I still don't know why so many people are set on drafting a DT. I'd rather draft an athletic, big DE and move Weaver inside to DT. That would give us Weaver, Payne, Malone, and Maddox inside plus anyone else we can pick up, I think that is a more solid set than what we have at DE and I think Weaver is more effective inside than coming off the edge.
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I still don't know why so many people are set on drafting a DT. I'd rather draft an athletic, big DE and move Weaver inside to DT. That would give us Weaver, Payne, Malone, and Maddox inside plus anyone else we can pick up, I think that is a more solid set than what we have at DE and I think Weaver is more effective inside than coming off the edge.
thats a good idea if Weaver recovers from his shoulder injury, but I doubt the Texans can count on anyone who has been on IR or faced season ending injurys. we also still have a pair of pretty good DE's in Peek & Babin plus Mario
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