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Old 01-02-2007   #1
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Default If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

You can consider Mario a BUST! Mario was drafted and PAID to be the STUD to anchor our line and make all the other players on the DL better. Thus you would not need to go break the bank and spent YET another 1st round pick (TJ and Babin) on another high priced DL.

I read in the Chronicle how getting pass rush would be a priority this offseason AGAIN. So what did Mario do for you? Apparently not enough. Especially not enough to justify where he was drafted....

And will his damn foot problems ever go away? It was a lingering problem ALL YEAR long stating with his toe and then his foot. Is this going to plague this guy his whole career or what? Did the Texans not do research on his injury problems?
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I disagree.

I think Williams had a pretty good year for a rookie. Players develop at different speeds in this league. He didn't have Peppers type sack totals, but he put pretty good pressure consistently.
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You can consider Mario a BUST! Mario was drafted and PAID to be the STUD to anchor our line and make all the other players on the DL better. Thus you would not need to go break the bank and spent YET another 1st round pick (TJ and Babin) on another high priced DL.

I read in the Chronicle how getting pass rush would be a priority this offseason AGAIN. So what did Mario do for you? Apparently not enough. Especially not enough to justify where he was drafted....

And will his damn foot problems ever go away? It was a lingering problem ALL YEAR long stating with his toe and then his foot. Is this going to plague this guy his whole career or what? Did the Texans not do research on his injury problems?

His foot problem will go away, but I agree with you on some levels.If they do draft a Dl this year, then they are sending messages that they are Unsure of Mario in the future. They are not sure he will be getting the 12 sacks he was supposed to be getting. Imagine if we do ge a Dl, they will comparing the Texans with the Lions, when they drafted a reciever three years in a row.
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I disagree.

I think Williams had a pretty good year for a rookie. Players develop at different speeds in this league. He didn't have Peppers type sack totals, but he put pretty good pressure consistently.
He had a good year if he was a third rounder but not a first overall pick.
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not true at all. ask bill belichick. he loves spending high picks on DLmen. why? it all starts up front. he wants the best players there. if you can get more great players there, it's not a bad thing at all.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

If you do draft DL it doesnt mean Mario was a bust. It means we are upgrading from Anthony Maddox and the other has beens and never Wazs that play DT right now, and Jason Babin at DE if we go there.

I will take Gaines Adams over Babin any day. Keep in mind we pick #8 and when it is our turn we could possibly be going best player available.
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not true at all. ask bill belichick. he loves spending high picks on DLmen. why? it all starts up front. he wants the best players there. if you can get more great players there, it's not a bad thing at all.
Yeah, but the Patriots have Tom Brady!!!!!! and the patriots usually have a late first rounder where thers alot of good DL, but not many of the so-called playmakers. I'm not saying that picking DL's is bad, cause the games are won in the trenches, but the Texans are ending up with top ten picks, they can get other players that suit other needs. They already got Mario last year.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

I think if they draft a DL you can say that Travis Johson and Jason Babin were busts. They have to undo 4 years of bad drafting so there will be many positions that get re-drafted and hopefully the players this time around will be good ones. I'm still miffed about that stupid 3-4 defense and trying to plug in rookie DE's at OLB. That plan was doomed from the coin flip.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

Due to the injuries on the DL Mario was doubled teamed almost every time. If you watched the games you could see that he was getting the push into the backfield most of the time. I believe it was the Buffalo Def. Coor. who said that they and other teams are already game planning for Mario, so that doesn't sound like a bust to me.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

I think Babins, T. Johnson, Peeks will be gone for next year.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

It doesn't mean Mario Williams is a bust. One man cannot control the line of scrimmage, just as 1 Olineman can not do it on his own either. Personally I don't want to spend another top 1st round pick on Dline because we have so much money tied up in the line now. Now if they want to go and draft a Dlineman in later rounds, I'm all for it.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

Weird statement = Original post.

As for whomever brought up the Pats, I agree see the Bears pre and post Tommy Harris injury for another example.

Also the easy way to fix teh secondary is to develop a consistent pass rush.
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As for whomever brought up the Pats, I agree see the Bears pre and post Tommy Harris injury for another example.

Also the easy way to fix teh secondary is to develop a consistent pass rush.
Or cut Faggins....
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

That is a gross overstatement. That's like drafting a QB with the 1st, and then taking an OL the next year with the 1st and calling the QB a bust. Nobody can do it alone in this game. Every position on the field affects another position on the field and they all need help sometimes.

If Mario gets 4.5 sacks with absolutely no help from his DL, and we draft a DL in the 1st, I don't see it as Mario being a bust, I see it as Mario getting more than 4.5 sacks next year.

Anyways...Kareem Brown from Miami in the 3rd would make me really happy.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

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I disagree.

I think Williams had a pretty good year for a rookie. Players develop at different speeds in this league. He didn't have Peppers type sack totals, but he put pretty good pressure consistently.
Babin had more sacks then Mario and only played 25% of the time. but he is consider a bust.
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You can consider Mario a BUST! Mario was drafted and PAID to be the STUD to anchor our line and make all the other players on the DL better. Thus you would not need to go break the bank and spent YET another 1st round pick (TJ and Babin) on another high priced DL.

I read in the Chronicle how getting pass rush would be a priority this offseason AGAIN. So what did Mario do for you? Apparently not enough. Especially not enough to justify where he was drafted....

And will his damn foot problems ever go away? It was a lingering problem ALL YEAR long stating with his toe and then his foot. Is this going to plague this guy his whole career or what? Did the Texans not do research on his injury problems?
HE IS ONLY 21!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch, he will be one of the best to play at his possition.
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What we need is a OL and RB in the first 2 picks, either or, and either through a trade or what ever...............THEN we need to find a big nasty to plugg in the middle, a guy with a attitude and some mass!

Marios buddy.............http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...rcustyler.html dont know what rd he is being projected at but, the nickname Tank is nice.
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Default Re: If the Texans draft DL with their 1st pick...

we go secondary with our first pick or OL .. I would think would be our first pick

now if we go DL I am ok with that.. how does that mean Mario is a bust? we play the 4-3.. Payne is getting long in the tooth and coming off of injury... TJ .. I am not sure about and Weaver is ok...

at picking 8th .. unless Peterson drops to 8th.. I hope to see an upgrade at CB or safety.(if Landry is there)
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