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Old 12-31-2006   #1
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Just heard a big rumour from Mike Carlson who does the NFL coverage over here that Jake Plummer looks set to rejoin Kubiak in Houston for '07.

This would be massive i reckon, both for Houston and for Carr, who could get on with his career elsewhere, i think the guy has a lot of talent but clearly needs a fresh start if he's to deliver on it.

Anybody else heard anything on this? can't link the information as it was on Channel 5 (UK) just now.
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Kubes said he's sticking with Carr on 610 radio show last week regardless of how he plays. He said he and the FO has no interest in Plummer because they have the position filled with Carr.

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Unfortunately, I think that will come true; however, I don't think Plummer is an upgrade over Carr. I don't want to think about sitting through a season with him at the helm...
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We've known this for months. Some are just accepting it recently, though.

Kubes said Carr was his man, just like Shannahan said Plummer was his man. I smell an avatar bet brewing.
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Kubes said he's sticking with Carr on 610 radio show last week regardless of how he plays. He said he and the FO has no interest in Plummer because they have the position filled with Carr.

If true need LINK guy.
I'm sorry i'm over here in the UK and don't really keep in touch, the thing i just heard was litterally on UK TV about 10 mins ago and was from the presenter on 5 TV, so i'd say whatever Kubes said on the radio is more reliable.

I was only asking for some info on what i heard, cheers.
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Troy Smith or JaMarcus Russel should be our pick next year. I actually think our D-Line is set and that we don't need to draft Alan Branch or Gaines Adams.
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If we prefer Carr to Plummer then does anybody worth having drop as far as Houston in the Draft though? Or are we better off keeping the QB position as it is and giving Carr another season behind the improved line?

Carr has improved this season to be fair, maybe not as much as some people would like but on the whole he is on the up, maybe Kubes could still make him that top 5 QB?
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Welsh,

I don't know that Carr is going to be able to turn things around in Houston; however, it still seems pretty costly a cap hit to trade/cut him - especially if it is done so we can bring in another "average" veteran qb. I would rather lets Rosenfels battle Carr for the starting position and draft a young qb in the second or third rounds.

We'll see how this plays out over the next few months.

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Unfortunately, I think that will come true; however, I don't think Plummer is an upgrade over Carr. I don't want to think about sitting through a season with him at the helm...
im new here so please dont take any of this too seriously but i think kubiak will give carr one more year till he starts looking for a new quarterback and i doubt that he will take a draft pick over a plummer who is on the downside of his carreer and past.
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Troy Smith or JaMarcus Russel should be our pick next year. I actually think our D-Line is set and that we don't need to draft Alan Branch or Gaines Adams.

Well, Anthony Weaver notched 1 sack this year as our DE, and Mario should be improving on his 4.5 sacks next season. I imagine Payne will be cut because of salary, and who knows if Travis Johnson will be back. This team still needs DL help.
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Oh *#$%! Jake the Mistake! I hope not, talk about taking two steps back.
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It would be a good move for us. For all of his faults, Plummer knows this offense and the mistakes he makes are errant passes, not poor pocket presence or an inability to make game changing decisions.

He will solidify the QB position for us and allow the team to continue moving forward.

He is NOT a long term answer though. If we get Plummer.. we need to get a rookie QB either this year or next year to begin grooming as his replacement.
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Quinton Porter. The reincarnation of Joe Cool.
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Im very interested in Porter.. I wish we could have seen more of him.
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aww this all makes me very frustrated, we get 4 NFL games per week on average, i don't think Houston have been picked since last seasons Bengals game, although they may have a week when i was unable to watch it this season, we get no CFL at all, not even highlights or anything, and i hate not knowing who's who when we all start discussing the draft.

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Anybody is an upgrade over Carr...
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aww this all makes me very frustrated, we get 4 NFL games per week on average, i don't think Houston have been picked since last seasons Bengals game, although they may have a week when i was unable to watch it this season, we get no CFL at all, not even highlights or anything, and i hate not knowing who's who when we all start discussing the draft.

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Plummer is not an upgrade period...Who the heck would want Carr anyways?!?! Yea, I didnt think you could answer that.

Some of you want Sage to play who moved the ball againts a soft Titan's D for 1 half...What a joke.

Carr makes too much money for his poor mental play...I agree with all of you there, however hiring another player Denver didnt even want is NOT the answer.

Plummer is no better than Carr, if you think he is then I want some of what you're smoking please.
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aww this all makes me very frustrated, we get 4 NFL games per week on average, i don't think Houston have been picked since last seasons Bengals game, although they may have a week when i was unable to watch it this season, we get no CFL at all, not even highlights or anything, and i hate not knowing who's who when we all start discussing the draft.

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Move to America buddy!! In all seriousness though, if you get satellite TV in Wales, do you get all the NFL games? Not sure how that works in other countries.
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I would love to keep carr next year, but also bring in plummer. Let them battle it out. I would just hate to spend a draft pick on a QB when we are close to becoming a playoff team, but we need to fill other holes. Honestly, the quarterback position isn't a desperate need to fix right now. Our other cornerback, other linebackers, safetys, o linemen, interior d linemen, THOSE ARE NEEDS, not so much quarterback. I am kind of neutral on the whole Carr deal. I want to keep him, because I believe he hasn't been given a legit shot, but I also do not want to baby him and I don't really feel like waiting around to see if hes going to make it or not. He is not young, we arent an expansion team, and your o line is going to be legit next season. I want to see if he can step up and be a pro bowl quarterback like he should be, becuase he certainly has the talent, he just needs to put it all together. And I think bringing in competition, might help him put it all together.
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