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Old 12-26-2006   #1
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I was watching ESPN and they had mentioned rookies of the year, the only rookies that came were... (and I am sure you already know) were Vince Young and Reggie Bush. Now I don't beleive that either of them have produced enought "THROUGH OUT" the year to be considered for this. Demeco Ryans on the other hand came out swinging. he leads the league in sacks and is an all around damn good player. All I am wanting is other peoples opinions on this rookie of the year.
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I was watching ESPN and they had mentioned rookies of the year, the only rookies that came were... (and I am sure you already know) were Vince Young and Reggie Bush. Now I don't beleive that either of them have produced enought "THROUGH OUT" the year to be considered for this. Demeco Ryans on the other hand came out swinging. he leads the league in sacks and is an all around damn good player. All I am wanting is other peoples opinions on this rookie of the year.
I hope he gets it. My guess is they will give it to VY.
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VY has had some good plays this year, but he has had alot of bad ones too. Reggie Bush has been nothing to talk about against good teams. I hear RB ran for 80 yards today and only had 3 fumbles, you can't have a good running game and a mess load of fumbles. you have to be consistantly good, and as far as Rookies go I beleive Demeco has been consistant and done well...
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I am far from being a VY or RB fan, and I defenitely think that DeMeco deserves at least 2nd place for rookie of the year. But I don't know what you're judging based on rookie of the year. Is it consistent great performance? Then yes, it's hands down our boy. But if you're judging other factors (not sure what they might be), then I think VY at least needs to be in consideration. He's not played well consistenly, but he's certainly won games for them and shown he can be the leader of their team.


I think DeMeco deserves it...but I don't really trust any "MVP" or "of the Year" award...they're based too much on popularity.
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As far as offensive rookies go, I think Maurice Jones-Drew deserves ROY. He's consistently produced big plays and steady production in both the running game and receiving game. He has been what Reggie Bush was supposed to be.

Defensively, I don't see how Demeco can lose it, really.
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I think there are 3 Rookie of the Year awards handed out. The NFL (Pepsi) Rookie of the Year always goes to an offensive guy. I believe this one is voted on by the fans.

Then AP has a defensive and offensive RoY award. DeMeco will win on defense. Young will probably take the other 2.
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I was watching ESPN and they had mentioned rookies of the year, the only rookies that came were... (and I am sure you already know) were Vince Young and Reggie Bush. Now I don't beleive that either of them have produced enought "THROUGH OUT" the year to be considered for this. Demeco Ryans on the other hand came out swinging. he leads the league in sacks and is an all around damn good player. All I am wanting is other peoples opinions on this rookie of the year.
Tackles, not sacks.
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I can name three players that should get rookie of the year before Demeco gets it. VY, RB and Colston. I base this off the fact that they have a much more impact to their teams success than Demeco has had. In fact, I would say the only reason that Demeco has been so succesful is because the rest of the line backers have not been doing their job. It is not necessarily always a good thing that you have on linebacker leading the league in tackles and the rest of them are way down the list. I like Demeco and we were lucky to be able to still get him in the second round, but no... he is not rookie of the year.
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mm.. since houston is not a very public team. i guess they may go with someone from a team with a better record..

but demeco has proven himself, but i would take someone else like vince young because his impact has been immediate, bush because he is a playmaker, or joseph addai since he has made ppl forget about edgerin james
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I would say the only reason that Demeco has been so succesful is because the rest of the line backers have not been doing their job. It is not necessarily always a good thing that you have on linebacker leading the league in tackles and the rest of them are way down the list.
Quoted for inaccuracy. Greenwood is in the top 30 in tackles.

DeMeco is already one of the best at his position. You can't say the same for the other guys.
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I can name three players that should get rookie of the year before Demeco gets it. VY, RB and Colston. I base this off the fact that they have a much more impact to their teams success than Demeco has had. In fact, I would say the only reason that Demeco has been so succesful is because the rest of the line backers have not been doing their job. It is not necessarily always a good thing that you have on linebacker leading the league in tackles and the rest of them are way down the list. I like Demeco and we were lucky to be able to still get him in the second round, but no... he is not rookie of the year.
By that same theory the only reason VY has had any success is because Collins is horrible. RB and Colston same thing. Once Horn got hurt, who else did they have to catch the ball? These guys and Demeco all are in the same boat, Rookies who are better then the people on their team. Don't try and knock Demeco with that stance.
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By that same theory the only reason VY has had any success is because Collins is horrible. RB and Colston same thing. Once Horn got hurt, who else did they have to catch the ball? These guys and Demeco all are in the same boat, Rookies who are better then the people on their team. Don't try and knock Demeco with that stance.
By no means am i knocking Demeco. Like I was saying... I feel lucky that we were able to get him because he was supposed to go in the first round, but he has not done as much for the Texans as R.B., V.Y., or Colston have done for their teams. Those guys have contributed to their teams maling the playoffs or potentially making the playoffs. Regardless of who sucked so bad and they were forced to play these guys, they are still better rookie of the year candidates for their contributions.
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This has to be one of the toughest ROY competitions ever. Lots of great talent.
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I thought there was an Offensive ROY and Defensive ROY awards handed out by AP. Is there a mixed Rookie award that I am missing?
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By no means am i knocking Demeco. Like I was saying... I feel lucky that we were able to get him because he was supposed to go in the first round, but he has not done as much for the Texans as R.B., V.Y., or Colston have done for their teams. Those guys have contributed to their teams maling the playoffs or potentially making the playoffs. Regardless of who sucked so bad and they were forced to play these guys, they are still better rookie of the year candidates for their contributions.
VY has been the spark for his team, no arguements there. RB and Colston were not the reason for the Saints turn around. Brees is the real reason there (along with new coaching staff). As much as I would like Demeco to win it, justly so in my eyes; VY will probably walk away with OROY and ROY while Demeco gets DROY.
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VY has been the spark for his team, no arguements there. RB and Colston were not the reason for the Saints turn around. Brees is the real reason there (along with new coaching staff). As much as I would like Demeco to win it, justly so in my eyes; VY will probably walk away with OROY and ROY while Demeco gets DROY.


I think we can all agree that this was the best draft the Texans have had so far even though we did not pick who we should have picked. Give Mario some help on the D-Line and I he will improve as well. This team needs a face to go with it though. Adrian Peterson was looking good, but since the Texans decided to beat the Colts, I think Cleveland will get him now.
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I thought there was an Offensive ROY and Defensive ROY awards handed out by AP. Is there a mixed Rookie award that I am missing?
That's what I'm wondering. The AP has a DROY and an OROY.
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In my opinion, it'll probably go to Colston. He's put up All-Pro numbers on a playoff bound team (70 rec. 1,038 yards 8 TD's & 51 1st downs). And, to think that we took David Anderson right before him.

Maurice Jones-Drew is coming on strong, but I don't think he'll get it.

VY could get it, but he hasn't put up good enough numbers & they're still on the outside looking in, as far as the playoffs go.

Bush has had a couple of good games & that's it. No way he wins it.

DeMeco has put up great numbers, but he's on a losing team. He'll get DROY hands down, but I suspect he'll come in 3rd in the ROY race.
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i dont even think he gets the defensive rookie of the year award but we will see i guess
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"Devin Hester is defensive rookie of the year bacause he returns kickoffs, returns punts, and plays cornerback"...-Merill Hodge (ESPN)
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