Why are people so down on Greenwood? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 12-22-2006

On a team where we have almost zero talent, I would think Greenwood would be someone people like.

The coaches speak highly of him, he's got consistency down, and he comes up with big plays when he can.

Sure his cap number is too big, but if we don't save much by cutting him, why sacrifice another position?

AndreRulz · 12-22-2006

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

On a team where we have almost zero talent, I would think Greenwood would be someone people like.

The coaches speak highly of him, he's got consistency down, and he comes up with big plays when he can.

Sure his cap number is too big, but if we don't save much by cutting him, why sacrifice another position?

I am not down on him.
he just is getting overpaided.

**Vinny** · 12-22-2006

If you like mediocre players...he's your man.

**beerlover** · 12-22-2006

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Originally Posted by Vinny

If you like mediocre players...he's your man.

mediocrity breeds.....well.....mediocrity

Sarg01 · 12-22-2006

Greenwood's shown some improvement this year. I still wouldn't call him anything other than "passable", but it's been enough that I wouldn't be pissed if we fixed the other OLB spot instead of his.

thunderkyss · 12-22-2006

Greenwood has shown some improvements.... he's playing better than he did last year.

But he still gives up too many big plays.....

**Texan_Bill** · 12-22-2006

I'm not down on Greenwood. He is what he is... Unfortunately, thats average at best, who will occasionally make a play.

Insideop · 12-22-2006

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

On a team where we have almost zero talent, I would think Greenwood would be someone people like.

The coaches speak highly of him, he's got consistency down, and he comes up with big plays when he can.

Sure his cap number is too big, but if we don't save much by cutting him, why sacrifice another position?

I think he is a steady (not flashy) player with some solid stats this year. I don't agree with most people on this MB that say we need to get rid of him now. He's not that bad and we have way too many other holes on this team to fill. JMHO!

**Texan_Bill** · 12-22-2006

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Originally Posted by Insideop

I think he is a steady (not flashy) player with some solid stats this year. I don't agree with most people on this MB that say we need to get rid of him now. He's not that bad and we have way too many other holes on this team to fill. JMHO!

Is he serviceable? Yes... Could we focus our attention on DB's? Yes. However, if you have a chance to upgrade at that position, we should go for it.

dbspi · 12-23-2006

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

On a team where we have almost zero talent, I would think Greenwood would be someone people like.

The coaches speak highly of him, he's got consistency down, and he comes up with big plays when he can.

Sure his cap number is too big, but if we don't save much by cutting him, why sacrifice another position?

We are paying him top dollars (elite level) and we had expected him to be top 5 OLB in the league which to this point he has not been. Its time to dump him and sign some one like Briggs and A.Thomas who are elite level OLB.

phan1 · 12-23-2006

It's also what he represents as a player. He's the guy that came in to fill Jamie Shaper's shoes and one of the big off-season acquisitions that started this whole mess we call the Houston Texans. Now he's obviously not the main reasons we suck, but when people say "where did we go wrong", I think it started with getting rid of Glenn and Sharper and bringing in guys like Greenwood.

**edo783** · 12-23-2006

Top level pay....mid level play.

**TEXANS84** · 12-23-2006

He reminds me of another #56. Ahhh....good ol' Jay Foreman.

Minotaur · 12-23-2006

IMO, he does better at MLB, where he excelled while with the Dolphins

**Texan_Bill** · 12-23-2006

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Originally Posted by TEXANS84

He reminds me of another #56. Ahhh....good ol' Jay Foreman.

LOL... I see where you are going with that, but I would put Greenwood a notch (a small notch) above Foreman....

Sarg01 · 12-23-2006

The cap savings is slightly negative if we were to release Greenwood this year. As long as he's better than the #50 guy on our roster, cutting him outright is crazy.

Next year, however, is a wholly different story. I vote for upgrading the Orr/Wong spot this year and worrying about Greenwood's next. Orr is an RFA this year, but I don't believe he was drafted, so we can put the low tender on him and another team can beat it if they want.

**ensign_lee** · 12-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Minotaur

IMO, he does better at MLB, where he excelled while with the Dolphins

Uh...no he wasn't. I was definitely an OLB at Miami. Then we tried to make him a MLB in the 3-4. Then we moved him back to OLB in our new 4-3.

yourfavoritetexan42 · 12-23-2006

If we can get another OLB to play opposite of him... who is a good solid player...then he will be alright in are starting rotation. For example, if we brought in Briggs from Chicago... Greenwood Ryans Briggs would look very attractive to me =D. But say we got someone who is a small upgrade of greenwood to play opposite...then I would like to see another small upgrade replace him...but he can succeed when good talent is around him. You see that a lot in football. ESPECIALLY on defense...and people don't realize that. On my high school team we have the best d line in the state... but it looks like we have the best linebackers in the state because they never get blocked! Which means that our DBs (what I play) can make huge plays becuase the opposing quarterback makes stupid throws that we can capitalize on because of the awesome pass rush.

Thats why Urlacher... I mean don't get me wrong he is good... but he will be the first one to tell you... Tommie Harris is one of his best friends and he definately will be giving him something for christmas

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gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Why are people so down on Greenwood? On a team where we have almost zero talent, I would think Greenwood would be someone people like. The coaches speak highly of him, he's got consistency down, and he comes up with big plays when he can. Sure his cap number is too big, but if we don't save much by cutting him, why sacrifice another position? __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? If you like mediocre players...he's your man. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,694 Rep Power: 51456	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? Greenwood has shown some improvements.... he's playing better than he did last year. But he still gives up too many big plays..... __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!! Section: Bull Pen!! Age: 45 Posts: 47,075 Rep Power: 41545	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? I'm not down on Greenwood. He is what he is... Unfortunately, thats average at best, who will occasionally make a play.

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phan1 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 650 Rep Power: 9	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? It's also what he represents as a player. He's the guy that came in to fill Jamie Shaper's shoes and one of the big off-season acquisitions that started this whole mess we call the Houston Texans. Now he's obviously not the main reasons we suck, but when people say "where did we go wrong", I think it started with getting rid of Glenn and Sharper and bringing in guys like Greenwood.

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Sarg01 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 1,152 Rep Power: 11	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? Greenwood's shown some improvement this year. I still wouldn't call him anything other than "passable", but it's been enough that I wouldn't be pissed if we fixed the other OLB spot instead of his.

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? Top level pay....mid level play. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,446 Rep Power: 3116	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? He reminds me of another #56. Ahhh....good ol' Jay Foreman.

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Minotaur Rookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 25 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? IMO, he does better at MLB, where he excelled while with the Dolphins __________________ Minotaur: Half man. Half bull. 100% Frito-Lay nflrumors.blogspot.com

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yourfavoritetexan42 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 412 Rep Power: 8	Re: Why are people so down on Greenwood? If we can get another OLB to play opposite of him... who is a good solid player...then he will be alright in are starting rotation. For example, if we brought in Briggs from Chicago... Greenwood Ryans Briggs would look very attractive to me =D. But say we got someone who is a small upgrade of greenwood to play opposite...then I would like to see another small upgrade replace him...but he can succeed when good talent is around him. You see that a lot in football. ESPECIALLY on defense...and people don't realize that. On my high school team we have the best d line in the state... but it looks like we have the best linebackers in the state because they never get blocked! Which means that our DBs (what I play) can make huge plays becuase the opposing quarterback makes stupid throws that we can capitalize on because of the awesome pass rush. Thats why Urlacher... I mean don't get me wrong he is good... but he will be the first one to tell you... Tommie Harris is one of his best friends and he definately will be giving him something for christmas

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