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Old 10-07-2004   #21
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The running was not the problem before. It was the fact that Palmer ran 90% or first downs.
When was "before?" I just looked at the two losses and the Texans ran 68% of the time on first down against SD, and 56% of the time on first down against Detroit. I excluded the final drive of the game from the Det number since it was hurry-up and almost exclusively pass. Against Oakland they ran on first down 61% of the time which appears to be about normal for this offense based on the other games. The Oak number excludes the kneel downs at the end and counts the Carr scramble at the end of the half as a pass.
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where are the rest of the stats? How about time of possession? did we have the ball more against oakland than we did against the other 3 teams? id say thats probably the case since we had 5 turnovers.

how about how many times did we rush in the fourth quarter while trying to run down the clock?

How about.. how many times did we pass the ball? More than previous games? id bet we passed it more cause it sure seemed like it in the game.


Yah we rushed 40 times.. but we still had a more balanced attack. We passed more.. and they werent dump off passes... and we rushed at the RIGHT TIMES (except those 3 times on the 7 yard line).

And its not just the amount of rushes that was pissing people off.. it was the overuse of D. Davis. In the first 2 games.. if we werent handing it off to him.. chances are we were dumping it off to him.


All that aside.. do we have to play the "im a better fan cause i didnt complain" game? if someone makes a STUPID negative comment about the team.. yah.. tear them a new one. But if there are INTELLIGENT debates with valid points being made, i dont think that qualifies as "bad fans". So why dont we drop the whole back patting party.
Saying DD fumbles because Palmer is running the wrong plays or DD is over used IS a stupid negative comment. However my post was not directed at anyone in specific.
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When interviewed on 610 radio the other day, Mack Brown stated that the 10 teams in the NFL last week with more running plays than passing plays were 10-0 last weekend.
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When interviewed on 610 radio the other day, Mack Brown stated that the 10 teams in the NFL last week with more running plays than passing plays were 10-0 last weekend.
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Saying DD fumbles because Palmer is running the wrong plays or DD is over used IS a stupid negative comment
lucky for me i didnt say that then.
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Okay, first let me say that I love our RBs! Still, I think that the vast majority of possessions the play call is predictable - Run, Run, Pass. I am an "air it out" advocate, but I agree that we should not stifle the run game. The only point I want to make is that we should not run THREE run plays in the red zone when the first (and then the second!) yield no gain! Try a play action to one of our tight ends or Johnson. I am not anti-Palmer nor anti-run game, but I am against settling for 3 instead of taking a SMALL chance and going for 6.
Im glad Oakland tried to pass for six. :hehe: Especially since Zero had been running so well all game.
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I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you trying to equate Kerry Collins to David Carr? I mean really, Collins is much older, does not have the talent that Carr has (Porter Schmorter and don't even get me started on what they are doing to Rice) and our D is so much better than Oakland's. As far as Zereoue (yes that would be the correct SPELLING OF HIS WHOLE LAST NAME!!!) he is not that great and that is why the Steelers kept the BUS and let his sorry A*@ go!
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lucky for me i didnt say that then.
"And its not just the amount of rushes that was pissing people off.. it was the overuse of D. Davis."


If you say so bro.
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We keep saying to fire Palmer and they've won the last 2 in a row. As long as we keep winning that way, I say, "FIRE PALMER!!!!!!!" :hehe:
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All that aside.. do we have to play the "im a better fan cause i didnt complain" game? if someone makes a STUPID negative comment about the team.. yah.. tear them a new one. But if there are INTELLIGENT debates with valid points being made, i dont think that qualifies as "bad fans". So why dont we drop the whole back patting party.
Nice rant but what the heck are you talking about? I noticed you used quotes for "bad fans". Who were you quoting? I started this thread and have checked everywhere and do not see that reference anywhere? It is rather satisfying to see the Texans win 2 in a row by executing using the same coaching staff they had at 0-2. I still say If Davis doesnt fumble the Texans are at least 3-1 if not 4-0 and DD is the next Barry Sanders and Palmer is a genius. Back to what I said in the original post. " Winning changes everything for the arm-chair QB."
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Back to what I said in the original post. " Winning changes everything for the arm-chair QB."
This is a message board so obviously the point is discussion. Having said that, absolutely agree. Too many people want to fire a coach or player rather than breaking down plays and seeing the failure in execution. Sometimes failure in execution can mean player replacement--sometimes it doesn't, like giving rookies time to adjust or an OL time to gel and get adjusted to a new scheme.
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