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Old 12-17-2006   #1
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Default We must Re-Begin with Quinn

We can all sit here and complain about all the mistakes that the Texans have made in the past till were blue in the face, I myself have posted plenty.Fact is, Vince Young or Reggie Bush aren't Texans, nor will they ever be. So where do we go from here.We start by getting a great on the field leader.Like it or not the quaterback is supposed to be the heart and soul of the team. I dont think there is one guy on the Patriots that wouldn't go to the mat for Tom Brady. just look back through the years and see that every great team had a great leader at the QB position.No the 2001 Ravens were not a great team. Great talent does not mean a great leader, the leadership comes from within,it can't be taught, you either have it or you don't. It baffels me that McNair can't figure this out. He above anyone should no this. He didn't become a billionaire by not being a great leader. Mr McNair needs to review the tapes of the Notre Dame vs Michigan St and the Notre Dame vs UCLA games and I think he find the type of leader this team needs.Just like Vince Young when the chips are down this guy spits in the face of defeat, David Carr Smiles.
I know that were looking at no better than the #3 pick, and looking at the two
pathetic teams in front of us, the Lions and Raiders they also need a QB. The positive thing for us is that these two teams have clowns running the circus.We shouldn't have a problem hoodwinking the top slot form one of these two teams.Remember everyone, this is only McNair's 5th year in the league, unlike Carr I think he will turn things around.

NOTE: I am not a Notre Dame Sympathizer, In fact I can't stand them.
But I can't stand losing more.
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Norte Dame has played teams not in its league all year to include Navy(Go Navy, Beat Army), Army, and Air Force. Brady Quinn is overrated. He is David Carr part deux. I'm all for replacing Carr ASAP, just not with Brady Quinn.
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we need to Re-Begin with someone,weather it be quinn, smith, or kolb, i bet even with a rookie QB we will win more games next season then this season, carr is not the QB houston needs, so everyone get over carr and let him go
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Norte Dame has played teams not in its league all year to include Navy(Go Navy, Beat Army), Army, and Air Force. Brady Quinn is overrated. He is David Carr part deux. I'm all for replacing Carr ASAP, just not with Brady Quinn.
Same here. I don't want Brady Quinn. If we draft Kevin Kolb in the 2nd or 3rd round, or somehow Troy Smith falls into our laps, I would take either of those two over Quinn. Had Quinn come out last season, he would have been the 4th QB taken. I think he's overrated. We can find a good QB project in the 2nd or 3rd round and let him sit for a year or two. If we do draft a QB, I don't want him starting his rookie year.
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what about free agency, what kind of QB's are there, maybe we could get matt schaub or something, the next few years look really weak when it comes to QB in the draft,
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what about free agency, what kind of QB's are there, maybe we could get matt schaub or something, the next few years look really weak when it comes to QB in the draft,
Matt Schaub is a restricted free agent and I'm guessing the Falcons would want a 1st round pick for him. No way we give up our 1st rounder for him this year. If they took our 1st round pick next year or in 2009, I'd do it.
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Matt Schaub is a restricted free agent and I'm guessing the Falcons would want a 1st round pick for him. No way we give up our 1st rounder for him this year. If they took our 1st round pick next year or in 2009, I'd do it.
I think the Falcons are just about sick of Vick. Schaub is staying right where he is.
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troy smith in the second looks pretty decent right about now... especially sandwithed between adrian peterson and a good LT
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JaMarcus Russell.. LSU.

We need a QB that fits the scheme, Quinn aint it.
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Norte Dame has played teams not in its league all year to include Navy(Go Navy, Beat Army), Army, and Air Force. Brady Quinn is overrated.
I agree man, he hasn't shown me anything. I like Notre Dame, but he reminds me of Rick Mirer...I just don't see him doing anything in the NFL. I could be wrong, but hey, I don't get paid for my opinions.
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if jamarcus russell declares what round would he be projected to go in
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from what ive read.. he would be a mid first to early second.. but his physical abilities could, and probably would, put him in the top 10... once it was all said and done with workouts and the combine and such.
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[quote=Grid;542249]JaMarcus Russell.. LSU.

We need a QB that fits the scheme, Quinn aint it.[/Q

Your probally right he doesn't fit the 1 yard and a cloud of dust, 5 yard out route scheme.
Come on JaMarcus Russell, we might as well sign Byron Leftwich. STOP LISTENING TO CHARLIE, SCHEMES DONT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO, 40 TIMES DONT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO. VERTICLE LEAP DOESNT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO, THROWING STYLE DOESNT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO. SCHEME WHAT SCHEME? BRADY QUINN OR BUST, THREE SUPERBOWL TITLES ARE WAITING.

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if jamarcus russell declares what round would he be projected to go in
Mid to late 3rd at best
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personally im in favor of taking taking troy smith in the second if hes available, hes got a cannon of an arm and is very mobile(4.6 forty)... im not really sure what kind of a leader he is though, but what the heck vince young didnt win the heisman trophy!!!!
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Your probally right he doesn't fit the 1 yard and a cloud of dust, 5 yard out route scheme.
Come on JaMarcus Russell, we might as well sign Byron Leftwich. STOP LISTENING TO CHARLIE, SCHEMES DONT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO, 40 TIMES DONT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO. VERTICLE LEAP DOESNT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO, THROWING STYLE DOESNT WIN GAMES PLAYERS DO. SCHEME WHAT SCHEME? BRADY QUINN OR BUST, THREE SUPERBOWL TITLES ARE WAITING.
It sounds like you like "intangables" i.e. a winner, and Quinn isn't a winner. If anything he is a nice system QB which is the opposite of youre little rant. He *WOULD* be the next Carr, or if you want the next Eli Manning. Someone way overhyped coming out of college just because he fit the mold everyone thinks a QB sould fit.

Plus he'd cost way too much $$$, and the Texans would have to move up to pick #1 to get him anyway. It's not worth it. Just pick AP, and get a servicable QB through free agency. Or keep Carr another year, skate to another top 5 draft pick and get Brohm when he comes out.
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BTW I'm pretty sure the Browns will take Troy Smith, so thats not even an option. The Texans/Vince scenario made it even harder for them to pass on him, especially if he win OSU a national championship.

As for the Heisman comment I can either rebut it with the fact that after the Rose Bowl last year everyone agreed Vince should have one it, or I can point you to all the Heisman winners who didnt make it in the NFL (jasone White, Eric Crouch, etc.). Take your pick,
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I think taking any high priced QB (draft or free agent) is too risky at this time!

The best thing to do right now is to slowly dig out of this by concentrating on the lines and defensive secondary.

If the team improves dramatically next year and it looks like the last piece is a QB, go for it then!

Too many holes to fill to definitely bring in a rookie unless they can put a team on his back. Quinn doesn't seem like a guy that you put an NFL team on his back.
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First round talent...mark it, book it, I'm sure of it.
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From what I've heard, Quinn will be like Carr...no longfield throws, conservative, pretty, etc.

I'm all for Russell, obviously, but I want a QB with more mobility than Carr more than anything.
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