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Old 12-12-2006   #1
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Let's say we have the 6th or 7th overall pick and the best player available is Gaines Adams? Would you draft him? I think I would. Mario and Adams as DEs, move Weaver to DT, and you have a very, very solid (potentially great) O-line.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

I wouldnt, I really dont feel like dropping another $30 million on DL.
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I wouldnt, I really dont feel like dropping another $30 million on DL.
No. If he is really BPA which I doubt he will be, I trade down. I don't want another 1st round D-linemen yet. I'll give it to you that TJ sucks, but I'm holding judgement on Babin yet. Mario will be fine. I just hope our FO isn't foolish enough to draft another DE in the first.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

Is the big tackle from Michigan still on the board ? Alan Branch looks like a prety fair player. I like Gains Adams a lot. But I hate to take positions back to back. Remeber, just about the only way you shake Manning up is with pressure up the middle.
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Let's say we have the 6th or 7th overall pick and the best player available is Gaines Adams? Would you draft him? I think I would. Mario and Adams as DEs, move Weaver to DT, and you have a very, very solid (potentially great) O-line.

Moving Weaver to DT full time would be a mistake IMO. He is just to light in the trunk and would be overpowered in most run situations. Especially late in games.

I am fine with Branch at that pick if we go DL, and give Travis Johnson one more year to prove himself. But we have seemed to better production from the guys we got from the street than the guys who started the year at DT.

Also I have not seen Adams play but have read that he is not big on playing the run. I would rather have a huge DT that plays the run great and will provide a big push in the middle of the DL before another DE.
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"from the guys we got from the street than the guys who started the year at DT.

Also I have not seen Adams play but have read that he is not big on playing the run. I would rather have a huge DT that plays the run great and will provide a big push in the middle of the DL before another DE.

Shhhh...some of us are still floating on DaNile with T.J.


Well I still got the Clemson -Wake forest Game Tivoed. Believe it was Wake Forest..STBC. He singal handedly literaly snatch victory from the jaws of defeat in that game. Broke through the line...Blocked the kick..took the ball away from the Wake Forest Holder..then raced 65 yards or so for the game winner. Don't know if the superman cape will translate in the NFL....But someone is going to pick that guy high. It'd be nice. But have my rathers ...rather have the big boddied DT to keep the wolves off of Demeeeco.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

championship teams build their clubs around the d-line. if adams is there and no one else is, why not? that'll be a helluva challenge for the opposing team to face week in and week out.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

Team's weakest link is D Secondary. I think you need to go there or OLB.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

Well, if he's BPA and we can't trade down...then yeah...and about Weaver playing DT...i'd do that only if it meant us getting a run stopper in the middle, but I wouldn't recommend it.

OLB - Willis all the way!
CB - Hall or Hughes
OT - Thomas
OG - Blalock
RB - Peterson or Lynch
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

the Texans would have to take a look @ Gaines Adams he is a top 5 prospect for a reason & the Texans lack that kind of disruptive speed on the edge. But depends where the Texans pick & what can be accomplished via free agency. he would balance the end position, Texans will need to also address the interior of the line, maybe Amobi Okoye will slip to the 2nd pick (doubt it) then the Texans would have the best, youngest defensive line in the entire NFL & at least one area of the team would be solidfied

while I don't think the Texans will have the patience (or the fans) for this kind of move or trading down & passing on one of the elite talents, ideally the best thing they could do is package a deal to trade down & pick up more picks, maybe in the process also move Carr. thinking about it I would be most happy if the Texans could draft both Laron Landry & Troy Smith then address the D & O Lines with additional/latter rd. picks
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

after giving it some thought a very realistic scenero indeed is the Texans feel that the ends in place (Babin/Peek) give them enough speed off the edge, that the most serious need on the D-Line needs to be @ the interior of the line & IF Alan Branch, DT Michigan comes out early he would be a great fit. Branch has ideal size for the position & another gifted athlete for his size ( 0606 330lbs). then make another splash with their 2nd rd. pick RB Michael Bush, Louisville (6020 248 lbs) sound familar....see a pattern
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With the new Mock that's been put up...would you spend the points to move up and get Branch ? From 6/8th to forth ? Had a points thing up but it didn't get thumbtacked.
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Is the big tackle from Michigan still on the board ? Alan Branch looks like a prety fair player. I like Gains Adams a lot. But I hate to take positions back to back. Remeber, just about the only way you shake Manning up is with pressure up the middle.

If I am drafting a D-linemen with the 1st pick (which I don't think we will, but I have been wrong before), but Branch is who I would want. A big, athletic DT to line up next to Mario. Teams wouldn't be able to double them (would be very similiar to Peppers and Jenkins for the Panthers).
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Team's weakest link is D Secondary. I think you need to go there or OLB.
Helping the pass rush also helps the secondary.
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Helping the pass rush also helps the secondary.
And we've bennifited so much this year.
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Depends on who else is on the board...even if Gaines is the BPA.

It would be a nice tandem though, Gaines and Mario.
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And we've bennifited so much this year.
Come on now, Mario has been hurt and was a very slow starter. He was overwhelmed the first 4 weeks. Once they put him in one place and gave him a script, he has been OK. If the danged foot and a lot of double teams had not slowed him down. Put a huge body athletic type next to Mario and watch QBs and O linemen become happy footed ferrets. Mario would move to double digit sacks and the interior will become a place teams avoid.

I agree if we get lucky we get Amobi Okoye in the second, and that is a very young DL. Weaver becomes the old man at 27 next year start of the season. Would it be to much to think they take both Branch and Okoye? Now that would be a DL. Weaver Okoye Branch Williams. The rest of the defense would still suck other than Ryans and Robinson, but the DL would be special.
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Come on now, Mario has been hurt and was a very slow starter. He was overwhelmed the first 4 weeks. Once they put him in one place and gave him a script, he has been OK. If the danged foot and a lot of double teams had not slowed him down. Put a huge body athletic type next to Mario and watch QBs and O linemen become happy footed ferrets. Mario would move to double digit sacks and the interior will become a place teams avoid.

I agree if we get lucky we get Amobi Okoye in the second, and that is a very young DL. Weaver becomes the old man at 27 next year start of the season. Would it be to much to think they take both Branch and Okoye? Now that would be a DL. Weaver Okoye Branch Williams. The rest of the defense would still suck other than Ryans and Robinson, but the DL would be special.
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Default Re: Would you draft Gaines Adams for the Texans?

one more thing about this draft. you have to look @ its strength, which always depends on the underclassman opting to turn pro & if Branch declares DT's would be above average. last year was QB's, LB's & DE's, of which the Texans got a couple in Mario & DeMeco. its dangerous to force needs into the equation when the ends don't justify the means, you have to tackle the situation
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which would be greater-

Mario/Travis/Weaver/Gaines or Mario/Branch/Weaver/Peek

the side by side combo of Mario/Branch would create match-up problems, Weaver is solid & a platoon of Babin & Peek would be dangerous. Travis is a rotational tackle, average at best but when healthy solid enough I guess.

Branch is a monster like Henderson & Stroud in Jacksonville you can build a defense around them, Mario & Branch would offer a similar scenero & possibly greater upside.
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