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Old 12-12-2006   #1
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I just thought id get a head start on this topic.

There are all kinds of rumblings about us getting Jake Plummer to replace Carr. NO.. I do NOT want to replace Carr with his older twin.

Plummer would be a band-aid, I want the whole shabang.

The only way I would be alright with getting plummer is:

A) He comes cheap
B) We trade Carr for a good pick
C) We draft a young QB to start grooming while Plummer holds down the fort.
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C.) Take in Plummer, draft Kolb in the 3rd round. Trade Carr for whatever we can get.
And oh yeah, try to get Joe Thomas with the first pick.
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Default Re: The Official "WE DONT WANT JAKE PLUMMER!" thread

Plummer is even worse than Carr.

Let me put it this way:

Plummer got benched for a rookie who isnt ready & isnt playing well.

Carr isnt benched yet & his back-up is a veteran player who has done well when he has stepped in.

Jake "the Mistake" Plummer is not what we need in Houston. Carr is an upgrade over this guy.
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Bring in Vick
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A) He comes cheap
B) We trade Carr for a good pick
C) We draft a young QB to start grooming while Plummer holds down the fort.
I choose C also. And get Joe Thomas.
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Default Re: The Official "WE DONT WANT JAKE PLUMMER!" thread

I'll take Jake Plummer over David Carr any day, especially since Plummer is a proven good QB under Kubiak.
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Maybe we sould keep Carr for one more year and groom a new QB to our system. No one seems to realize that this is still new to every player on the field that DIDN'T play for the Broncos last year. We need to draft a RB who can give us a chance to pound the rock and run the clock, beef up our O-Line, get some real safeties in here, and then I think the Texans will have it made. One more year people. thats all I ask.
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C) We draft a young QB to start grooming while Plummer holds down the fort.
If we do that then we might as well keep Carr and spare a big cap hit.
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If we do that then we might as well keep Carr and spare a big cap hit.
Well when I listed those three things.. I meant that ALL of them need to happen.

Plummer needs to come cheap, Carr needs to be traded for a good pick, and Plummer needs to be a temporary solution while we groom our starter.

I dont want to just bench Carr and bring in Plummer.. that isnt going to fix anything.
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I just thought id get a head start on this topic.

There are all kinds of rumblings about us getting Jake Plummer to replace Carr. NO.. I do NOT want to replace Carr with his older twin.

Plummer would be a band-aid, I want the whole shabang.

The only way I would be alright with getting plummer is:

A) He comes cheap
B) We trade Carr for a good pick
C) We draft a young QB to start grooming while Plummer holds down the fort.

great post, i dont want plummer either
a) possible
b) doubtful
c) probable

i think Carr will be back next year irregardless of his performance the rest of the season. it wont be popular, but because of the mistake last offseason (the contract not the passing on VY) its more practical. They will draft in the 3rd-5th round for a QB and you never know, Troy Smith could still be around in the 3rd (early 3rd). You then have Sage, Carr, and Smith compete to be starter. Insert Plummer's name in place of Carr if he is indeed traded/released but if we release Carr expect little to no Free Agent acquisitions of any consequence...Joey Porter is getting old but he could come in and give us a good pass rushing LB with coverage skills but he wont come cheap.
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Default Re: The Official "WE DONT WANT JAKE PLUMMER!" thread

Why exactly don't we want him? Under Kubiak, he was a pretty good QB. Over the last 3 years, heres how his numbers looked:

03 - 11 games, 62.6% completion, 2182 yards, 7.23 avg, 15 TD, 7 INT, 91.2 rating

04 - 16 games, 58.2% completion, 4089 yards, 7.85 avg, 27 TD, 20 INT, 84.5 rating

05 - 16 games, 60.7% completion, 3366 yards, 7.38 avg, 18 TD, 7 INT, 90.2 rating.

It wasn't until Kubes left that he started falling into old habits. Why not give him a shot. He knows the system well enough, and last year he led his team deep into the playoffs.

Just for comparison sake, heres how DC's season is projected to play out:

16 games, 69.4% completion, 2943 yards, 6.36 avg, 12 TD, 9 INT, 87.5 rating

I think Plummer would at least be a cheaper upgrade
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Keep Carr, forget Plummer, and draft Adrian Peterson with our 1st pick...

Plain and simple. We need a running back more than a new QB...
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Why exactly don't we want him? Under Kubiak, he was a pretty good QB. Over the last 3 years, heres how his numbers looked:

03 - 11 games, 62.6% completion, 2182 yards, 7.23 avg, 15 TD, 7 INT, 91.2 rating

04 - 16 games, 58.2% completion, 4089 yards, 7.85 avg, 27 TD, 20 INT, 84.5 rating

05 - 16 games, 60.7% completion, 3366 yards, 7.38 avg, 18 TD, 7 INT, 90.2 rating.

It wasn't until Kubes left that he started falling into old habits. Why not give him a shot. He knows the system well enough, and last year he led his team deep into the playoffs.

Just for comparison sake, heres how DC's season is projected to play out:

16 games, 69.4% completion, 2943 yards, 6.36 avg, 12 TD, 9 INT, 87.5 rating

I think Plummer would at least be a cheaper upgrade
He didnt lead them deep into the playoffs.

They made it deep into the playoffs despite the fact that Plummer was the QB.
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I say trade Carr, start Sage and draft Troy Smith.

But that is just my opinion.
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Actually, JP was a huge reason they got the 1st round bye going into the playoffs, and despite the INT at the beginning of the NE game, he played a good game that game.

True he played poorly at Pitt, but so did the entire team.
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