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Old 10-05-2004   #21
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I saw dunta in the texans game against the cowboys and he OWNED Meshawn. I like him very well, better than hall at this point. But you got to be relistict he is playin against Randy Moss, hes goin to take advantage of the Rookie if he has a great game stopping moss in the redzone and whatnot i'll be very surprised. He's gonna have a long day.
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I am not so worried about the deep pass as I am about the 5 yard line toss-up pass that Moss always outleaps the defender to get.
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Old 10-06-2004   #23
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Dunta against Moss... That would be a nightmare.. Moss is a awesome player and Dunta, who is very good, does not have the experience to cover Moss. I think Glenn would wrap him up tho.. I could work with a Glenn cover with Dunta or Coleman backup...
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HJam...you help out on the covering of Moss, I'll run behind Sharper on the blitz.
Ummm. OK, but I'm just gonna have to stand at the line, jump on his back, and hold on the rest of the play.
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I'm sorry, but no one stops Moss. He is the most invincible reciever in the league. Everybody else (even Terrell Owens) is a distant second. What we have to do is stop the QB. Against the Eagles, the Vikings O-line wasn't very good. They pressured Culpepper and made it very hard for him while also keeping him in the pocket. That's what we need to do Sunday. Take care of the QB and we can contain Moss.
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not just blitz...blitz the middle and have babin and wong contain the outside...then deep zone coverage...if we can do what phili did to the vikes we have a very good chance of pulling off the upset...especially if minnesota is overlooking us
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Dunta and Aaron both have the speed to run with Moss, so while I'm cautious I'm not totally worried about between the 20s. I'm more concerned about how we're going to stop Moss in the red zone where height will really come into play.

Who is their starting RB for this week? I want to say Moe Williams, but I could have just made that up in the back of my brain. Bennett and Smith are both out so if we can stop the run without committing too much up front we might be able to get away with more coverage on the WRs/more blitzers to pressure Culpepper..
According to the matchup page, it's rookie Mewelde Moore starting in the Vikings backfield.
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Also, I hope to see the D go for the ball in Peppers hands. He seems to have alot of fumbles. At least get one that way.
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I think the Texans are smart enough to know that Moss is virtually unstoppable when he's on his game. He can outrun, out jump and out play most any corner. So the assertion is correct. Stop the ball from getting to him....if the QB can't throw it he can't catch it.

And he tends to sulk when things don't go his way...I've seen him take plays off which is unfortunate for such a great player.

I almost choked when he got passed up by all those teams when he was drafted.

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Also, I hope to see the D go for the ball in Peppers hands. He seems to have alot of fumbles. At least get one that way.
When I was watching the Vikes Eagles game they brought up Culpepper and his fumbling. They should some stats on the screen comparing McNabb and Culpepper over a certain number of games and Culpepper had more than twice as many fumbles as McNabb.
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I'm telling you Colemen will play ahuge part in this game because forgive me if i'm wrong he's the tallest DB we have.
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I guess it's a plan to put a tall DB on Moss but he can outjump a deer I think.

Better Coleman than the rookie though.
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I still like the idea of jamming Moss at the line of scrimmage with Brown or Earl and having our CB go stride for stride with Coleman helping out deep. Also, LONG offensive drives to eat up clock with points every drive. For this game, if a touch down is in doubt in the red zone, I say go for 3. Kris is 9/10 in field goals. I would like to see every possible hat on the ball by defense and punish the runner or reciever.
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This is a game that I hope the coaches are planning on taking advantage of the out of pocket rules. Once Culpepper steps out of the pocket, the 5 yard contact rule is out the window. As soon as he steps out, whoever is on Moss needs to chuck the crud out of him until Culpepper puts the ball in the air.
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Thats the way I understood the rule too, but there have been some calls on DBs when the QB goes out of the pocket. There was on in the Monday Night game that was called against the Chiefs.
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Moss hurt in practice today

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EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Minnesota Vikings receiver Randy Moss was listed as "probable" on the team's injury report after leaving practice early on Thursday because he aggravated a previous ankle injury, the team said.
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Matchup: Dunta Robinson against Randy Moss

This is a serious matchup, and Dunta's A game better be in full effect. After doing an excellent job against Porter last week, he faces the most dangerous reciever in the NFL.

So guys, of course we'll see a LOT of double teams, but how do you think Dunta will hold up?
Allow me to remove all questions on whether or not D. Rob can cover Randy Moss. In a word....."NO". I really like D. Rob but simply put....there is no way in hell any DB can cover Moss alone. This reminds me of something which happened with my other team....the 0-3 Buffalo Bill's. Former Green Bay Packer and Buffalo Bill's Hall of Fame WR James Loften had just beaten a young DB on a long TD. As the DB jumped and cussed in the end zone after being burned the smooth Loften turned to him and said....."Relax kid, I've beaten a lot better DB's than you'll ever be!" Hopefully Mr. Moss won't be repeating those words to D. Rob!
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Unfortuatly we have had alot of pressure on Pepp the past few games, but we have played very very good D Lines. I dont even know one guy on your D Line (but thats why i come here to learn more about the oponent). Even though there has been significant pressure on pepp he has been unbelievable, just imagine if he gets time.

Oh by the way I just heard Wong's name i always thought he was a good LB (x-Viking), how has he turned out in Houston the past few years?

What did you guys think of Steve Martin our DT who will most likely start for the somewhat injured Hovan on sunday?
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