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Old 12-11-2006   #1
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Watching the game yesterday, the running game got going and Dayne was busting off some nice 8 to 10 yard runs. All of a sudden, Carr ran some play action and wa-la, he had a huge pocket around him and loads of time to throw the ball. And this is with a patchwork OL. Did you see any changes in the run formation that made that work so well?

Another thing I've noticed is this. For an offense that is supposed to establish the run first and foremost, why do they always pass on the first play from scrimmage. And I mean always. First play of every game is a pass.

Oh yeah, on both TD drives we had, 8 rush and 2 pass plays. Now that is a running game.

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Keep in mind the first 3 drives Lundy had 2 carries. It's not like we even tried to establish the run before Dayne got in there. I know that dosnt answer your question, but I think it was balance in playcalling more then anything which opened up the pocket.
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Once Dayne got rolling is when things changed. A good running game will help your passing game. I'm confused on why they stopped pounding Dayne when they did. He was chewing us up.
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Watching the game yesterday, the running game got going and Dayne was busting off some nice 8 to 10 yard runs. All of a sudden, Carr ran some play action and wa-la, he had a huge pocket around him and loads of time to throw the ball. And this is with a patchwork OL. Did you see any changes in the run formation that made that work so well?

Another thing I've noticed is this. For an offense that is supposed to establish the run first and foremost, why do they always pass on the first play from scrimmage. And I mean always. First play of every game is a pass.
Your right! Running game caught fire in the middle of the game and O my gosh big plays were open, wow what a concept!
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Your right! Running game caught fire in the middle of the game and O my gosh big plays were open, wow what a concept!
big plays? big plays!?!?!? what big plays are you talking about. oh wait, its Hulk75 talking....he watches the broadcast through a reality changing device called the Homerator3000. This miracle of modern science distorts reality beyond imagination. It's the same device used by Astros fans to make them think Bagwell is HOF worthy. Now THAT is true unwielding power. Congrats Hulk75 you take the cake as My Favorite Homer.
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We only had one play over 20 yds . That was the sideline pass to Johnson to help set up the tying field goal .

How did that drive stall anyhow ?
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Once Dayne got rolling is when things changed. A good running game will help your passing game. I'm confused on why they stopped pounding Dayne when they did. He was chewing us up.
Because if we throw on first down, and it is incomplete.... the thinking is that our running game won't get us to 3rd & short... if we run on second down we'll probably end up with 3rd & 6.

we don't have a running game yet. We'll run on 1st & 10...... or 2nd & less than 10...... or 3rd & 2 (sometimes)....

When we can run on 2nd & 10, then I'd think we have a run game.
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Hey TK that avatar looks good .
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big plays? big plays!?!?!? what big plays are you talking about. oh wait, its Hulk75 talking....he watches the broadcast through a reality changing device called the Homerator3000. This miracle of modern science distorts reality beyond imagination. It's the same device used by Astros fans to make them think Bagwell is HOF worthy. Now THAT is true unwielding power. Congrats Hulk75 you take the cake as My Favorite Homer.
Wow! Slow down mam, I meant longer passes. Its been 6 hours time for another Zanex.
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it does. would look a hell of a lot better if he was wearing Texans gear.....
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We had a wager . I'm just glad I did'nt have to have a Carr avatar .
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We had a wager . I'm just glad I did'nt have to have a Carr avatar .
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you'd have sported my Thunderkyss/Babin avatar....
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I read one of your post about trading Carr . Look at the NFC central ... attention QB shoppers .
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I read one of your post about trading Carr . Look at the NFC central ... attention QB shoppers .
my posts??

I don't think I'd suggest a trade..... I'd feel dirty, and wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

I've talked about cutting him straight up......... however if I were paying him in excess of $8 mill a year, I'd at least want him to hold a clipboard for my QBs.. get them some gatorade, towel their brow.. clean their cleats during the commercial breaks..... things like that you know..... get my money's worth.
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I think his contract makes him nearly untradable. a team will simply wait till we cut him and then pick him up for nothing. i would take just about anything to just get rid of him and his contract. We would still have to absorb the remaining signing bonus over the next 2 years, correct? I think we are on the books for the signing bonus regardless of trade or waivers.

either way, pull the trigger and turn the page.
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I don't care how ... when the 4th quarter ends against the Browns Kubiak needs to hand him a screwdriver to take his name off his locker . Then he can hand the screwdriver to McKinney .
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I don't think I'd suggest a trade..... I'd feel dirty, and wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

I've talked about cutting him straight up......... however if I were paying him in excess of $8 mill a year, I'd at least want him to hold a clipboard for my QBs.. get them some gatorade, towel their brow.. clean their cleats during the commercial breaks..... things like that you know..... get my money's worth.
to see Carr have to give hand signals and hold a clipboad for 16 games a year would be something to behold...I just want the team to cut him. It would send a message in that locker room that has been needed for quite some time and that message is that losing will not be tolerated...anyone is fair game even the golden boy

the locker room would respect that from Special Teamer to 1st Round Prospect to Equipment Manager
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I don't care how ... when the 4th quarter ends against the Browns Kubiak needs to hand him a screwdriver to take his name off his locker . Then he can hand the screwdriver to McKinney .
hopefully, they'll talk McKinney into retiring.

But you should expect to see David here for the next two years..........


Until Kubiak has his people starting at the other 21 positions, we need a tackling dummy...... David's resume looks pretty impressive, I don't think anyone else is more qualified.
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Two more years ... I think Mario would be trying to take him out in traing camp .

Instead of wearing a red jersey ... they can tell David he's sponsored by Target and they want to wear there shirt .
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