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Old 12-11-2006   #1
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I decided it was best to go directly to the horses mouth (where did that expression come from anyway) and contact the Texans myself. I called them this morning and then sent the below email. I encourage all of you to send them your feedback as well, whatever that feedback is. We are all Texans and the organization should know how we feel. If you really feel strongly about you beliefs, and want something done, take a few minutes and let them know. You can reach them by email at fanfeedback@houstontexans.com



December 11, 2006

To whom it may concern:

My name is Ashley Ashna, and I am a PSL holder. I am writing to convey my complete displeasure with this franchise. I hate the fact that I can't turn on the television, pick up a newspaper, turn on a radio, or just talk to someone without be ridiculed as a Houston Texans fan. When I spent $4200 in PSL fees and then $1500 a season for my tickets, I never envisioned this is the way I'd be spending my money.

Regardless of what the reason/s may be, it is time for David Carr to leave the Houston Texans. It is clear he has lost the confidence of his coach, fans, and it appears he has lost his own confidence. With 53 seconds left in the game, Kubiak asked Carr what he thought...go for it or run out the clock and go into overtime. Carr's response was, "it's up to you coach."

I want a QB who wants the ball and an opportunity to win, not one who shies away from the challenge. Maybe he is afraid to fail, maybe he doesn't think he can do it. One thing I believe is that a true leader, whoever you think that may be, would not have deferred the choice back to the coach, he would have said, "I want to do it, put the ball in my hands." Maybe this was a test from Kubiak to see if his qb would rise to the challenge; to check Carr's own confidence in his ability. Maybe Kubiak wanted Carr to make the choice as the leader of this football team. If it was, then Carr failed, and Kubiak made the right choice not to put the game in Carr's hands. It is finally clear to me that David Carr is no leader on the football field.

It is time for the Texans to listen to what their fans are truly saying and I am not talking about what type of concessions we want, or if we want the roof open. We as fans spend millions of dollars collectively on this team, our voices should be heard. It is advisable that you all check out the official Houston Texans message board and listen to your fans. . . You are losing many Texans fans by the day, all over the state; fans that have been with this team since day one. There are many smart fans on that board with great football knowledge and have shown they can make better choices than the previous Texans regime. . . they surely couldn't do any worse.

One more point I want to bring up. At the game yesterday, the player introductions were not done. Many fans and members of the media are saying the reason the introduction weren't done is because the Texans didn't want Carr or Mario to get booed or for Young to get a massive round of applause. If this is the case, and God I hope it isn't, then this is the most cowardly P.R. move I have ever seen. The Houston Texans are a big organization and should have to stand with accountability regarding the decisions they make. Fans pay good money to go to what have been lousy and miserable games, and have the right to show their displeasure. If we are allowed to cheer when you all do something great, then we should be allowed to boo if we are unhappy. Player introductions are a tradition (one of the few we have) and the decision to have them or not have them should not be based off if the organization is going to receive the desired outcome. If that is the case, maybe we as Texans fans should stop attending games, because we surely aren't getting the desired outcome of what we want (wins).

I am not a fair weather fan, or bandwagon fan. I am a true Texans fan and that is why I am taking the time to write this letter. I will be here until I either die, or this team is moved. However, that does not mean I will support mediocrity or incompetent decision making. I am proud to be a Houston Texans, but I am embarrassed at the consistent blunders this organization and it's players continue to make.

Please show some level of accountability and make changes to this abysmal team.


Sincerely,


Ashley Ashna
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P.S. You all should send a special thank you to Vinny and his moderator team for cleaning up all of the garbage on the message board that has been created due to this team's decision making. They really do a great job of keeping it well maintained and bearable to be a part of.
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Nice letter and post Ashley. Rep sent your way...
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I decided it was best to go directly to the horses mouth (where did that expression come from anyway) and contact the Texans myself. I called them this morning and then sent the below email. I encourage all of you to send them your feedback as well, whatever that feedback is. We are all Texans and the organization should know how we feel. If you really feel strongly about you beliefs, and want something done, take a few minutes and let them know. You can reach them by email at fanfeedback@houstontexans.com



December 11, 2006

To whom it may concern:

My name is Ashley Ashna, and I am a PSL holder. I am writing to convey my complete displeasure with this franchise. I hate the fact that I can't turn on the television, pick up a newspaper, turn on a radio, or just talk to someone without be ridiculed as a Houston Texans fan. When I spent $4200 in PSL fees and then $1500 a season for my tickets, I never envisioned this is the way I'd be spending my money.

Regardless of what the reason/s may be, it is time for David Carr to leave the Houston Texans. It is clear he has lost the confidence of his coach, fans, and it appears he has lost his own confidence. With 53 seconds left in the game, Kubiak asked Carr what he thought...go for it or run out the clock and go into overtime. Carr's response was, "it's up to you coach."

I want a QB who wants the ball and an opportunity to win, not one who shies away from the challenge. Maybe he is afraid to fail, maybe he doesn't think he can do it. One thing I believe is that a true leader, whoever you think that may be, would not have deferred the choice back to the coach, he would have said, "I want to do it, put the ball in my hands." Maybe this was a test from Kubiak to see if his qb would rise to the challenge; to check Carr's own confidence in his ability. Maybe Kubiak wanted Carr to make the choice as the leader of this football team. If it was, then Carr failed, and Kubiak made the right choice not to put the game in Carr's hands. It is finally clear to me that David Carr is no leader on the football field.

It is time for the Texans to listen to what their fans are truly saying and I am not talking about what type of concessions we want, or if we want the roof open. We as fans spend millions of dollars collectively on this team, our voices should be heard. It is advisable that you all check out the official Houston Texans message board and listen to your fans. . . You are losing many Texans fans by the day, all over the state; fans that have been with this team since day one. There are many smart fans on that board with great football knowledge and have shown they can make better choices than the previous Texans regime. . . they surely couldn't do any worse.

One more point I want to bring up. At the game yesterday, the player introductions were not done. Many fans and members of the media are saying the reason the introduction weren't done is because the Texans didn't want Carr or Mario to get booed or for Young to get a massive round of applause. If this is the case, and God I hope it isn't, then this is the most cowardly P.R. move I have ever seen. The Houston Texans are a big organization and should have to stand with accountability regarding the decisions they make. Fans pay good money to go to what have been lousy and miserable games, and have the right to show their displeasure. If we are allowed to cheer when you all do something great, then we should be allowed to boo if we are unhappy. Player introductions are a tradition (one of the few we have) and the decision to have them or not have them should not be based off if the organization is going to receive the desired outcome. If that is the case, maybe we as Texans fans should stop attending games, because we surely aren't getting the desired outcome of what we want (wins).

I am not a fair weather fan, or bandwagon fan. I am a true Texans fan and that is why I am taking the time to write this letter. I will be here until I either die, or this team is moved. However, that does not mean I will support mediocrity or incompetent decision making. I am proud to be a Houston Texans, but I am embarrassed at the consistent blunders this organization and it's players continue to make.

Please show some level of accountability and make changes to this abysmal team.


Sincerely,


Ashley Ashna
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P.S. You all should send a special thank you to Vinny and his moderator team for cleaning up all of the garbage on the message board that has been created due to this team's decision making. They really do a great job of keeping it well maintained and bearable to be a part of.

I feel for you. I didn't buy PSL's but I supported the team with 3 season tickets this year on the assumption they would at least have a playmaker. But then McNair couldn't get the deal done so we settled. And blocked getting an even better player than Bush thus compounding an earlier error in judgement, taking an unproven rookie to QB your new team.
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Nope, that is where that hotdog I ate during the 1st quarter went. Cleared out the whole restroom...
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I resisted the urge to stop reading about three sentences in and as much as I think you are scapegoating Carr, I respect the way your letter was written.

However and for the record, I'm not sure if I'd rather Carr had said gimme the ball there or not. If the coaches are incompetent, then fire them. If not, then it is better that the players respect and defer to their judgment.

Which was Carr's true motivation? Of course everyone here says he's merely a coward, but it's not such a stretch to imagine that he was in fact putting the team above himself in that moment, in deferring to his coaches. If he had said give me the ball and turned it over, everyone here would be screaming for his head for being selfish or inept. And who here really believes any QB perhaps outside of Peyton Manning would get his team 93 yards in 53 seconds -- or even half of that for a field goal? Who here would really go for it with a tie game and your back to the end zone, on any team? Be realistic.

Carr's damned if he does and damned if he don't. And I don't see anyone here berating Vince the Champion of the Ages for not demanding the ball on 4th and whatever when they settled for a punt to give us the ball back with :53 to go. People expect Carr to challenge conventional football wisdom when it's much less of a stretch to expect Jason Babin to make a tackle or Richard Smith to run a spy just once on Vince.

So while I respect the messenger for your delivery, Ashley, I still have to disagree with the message.
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He's won some games, too, hasn't he?

You act as if he fails every time he touches the ball.

AJ dropped a TD pass. Shouldn't he be fired, too?

Sorry...I think you are looking for a scape goat. The real reason for our team's depression was fired the day after he coached the final regular season game last season.

IMO, you're reaching for a straw. Maybe you should just not go to the games anymore?

Where do people get off thinking that they can hold the money they CHOSE to spend over someone else's head like this?

Make a responsible decision and just don't renew your tickets, etc.

And ask Joey Harrington how it feels to finally be on a team who has a good head coach and management. We're getting there. Don't panic.
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He's won some games, too, hasn't he?

You act as if he fails every time he touches the ball.

AJ dropped a TD pass. Shouldn't he be fired, too?

Sorry...I think you are looking for a scape goat. The real reason for our team's depression was fired the day after he coached the final regular season game last season.

IMO, you're reaching for a straw. Maybe you should just not go to the games anymore?

Where do people get off thinking that they can hold the money they CHOSE to spend over someone else's head like this?

Make a responsible decision and just don't renew your tickets, etc.

And ask Joey Harrington how it feels to finally be on a team who has a good head coach and management. We're getting there. Don't panic.
I keep seeing this, but from what I saw, it was a poorly thrown ball that AJ had to fight through two defenders to try and catch. Carr put too much air under it, which gave the defenders time to catch up.
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Wow Texans Pride, I thought you were the guy,....no idea that you were a female...


After reading that letter all I can say is wow! True words have never been spoken. I hope Bob McNair reads that letter and nails it to his office to remind him of the displeasure of the fans. We deserve better, it is a shame that we have to be embarrased to say " Im a Texans fans" and have people ridicule us for having faith on this team. It is even more sad for the people who invest thousands of dollars into this organization, they do not deserve it.

This reminds me of people who go back to their girl/boyfriends after their partners have cheated on them. They just never learn. Hope the Texans can learn and make the right decisions in the future. Up to this point this team has been the laughing stock of the NFL. Al Michaels and Dick V embarrased the Texans organization and they deserve it. Hope they learn, hope they learn. What coulda shoulda woulda been is now what this organization has left.
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I decided it was best to go directly to the horses mouth (where did that expression come from anyway) and contact the Texans myself. I called them this morning and then sent the below email. I encourage all of you to send them your feedback as well, whatever that feedback is. We are all Texans and the organization should know how we feel. If you really feel strongly about you beliefs, and want something done, take a few minutes and let them know. You can reach them by email at fanfeedback@houstontexans.com



December 11, 2006

To whom it may concern:

My name is Ashley Ashna, and I am a PSL holder. I am writing to convey my complete displeasure with this franchise. I hate the fact that I can't turn on the television, pick up a newspaper, turn on a radio, or just talk to someone without be ridiculed as a Houston Texans fan. When I spent $4200 in PSL fees and then $1500 a season for my tickets, I never envisioned this is the way I'd be spending my money.

Regardless of what the reason/s may be, it is time for David Carr to leave the Houston Texans. It is clear he has lost the confidence of his coach, fans, and it appears he has lost his own confidence. With 53 seconds left in the game, Kubiak asked Carr what he thought...go for it or run out the clock and go into overtime. Carr's response was, "it's up to you coach."

I want a QB who wants the ball and an opportunity to win, not one who shies away from the challenge. Maybe he is afraid to fail, maybe he doesn't think he can do it. One thing I believe is that a true leader, whoever you think that may be, would not have deferred the choice back to the coach, he would have said, "I want to do it, put the ball in my hands." Maybe this was a test from Kubiak to see if his qb would rise to the challenge; to check Carr's own confidence in his ability. Maybe Kubiak wanted Carr to make the choice as the leader of this football team. If it was, then Carr failed, and Kubiak made the right choice not to put the game in Carr's hands. It is finally clear to me that David Carr is no leader on the football field.

It is time for the Texans to listen to what their fans are truly saying and I am not talking about what type of concessions we want, or if we want the roof open. We as fans spend millions of dollars collectively on this team, our voices should be heard. It is advisable that you all check out the official Houston Texans message board and listen to your fans. . . You are losing many Texans fans by the day, all over the state; fans that have been with this team since day one. There are many smart fans on that board with great football knowledge and have shown they can make better choices than the previous Texans regime. . . they surely couldn't do any worse.

One more point I want to bring up. At the game yesterday, the player introductions were not done. Many fans and members of the media are saying the reason the introduction weren't done is because the Texans didn't want Carr or Mario to get booed or for Young to get a massive round of applause. If this is the case, and God I hope it isn't, then this is the most cowardly P.R. move I have ever seen. The Houston Texans are a big organization and should have to stand with accountability regarding the decisions they make. Fans pay good money to go to what have been lousy and miserable games, and have the right to show their displeasure. If we are allowed to cheer when you all do something great, then we should be allowed to boo if we are unhappy. Player introductions are a tradition (one of the few we have) and the decision to have them or not have them should not be based off if the organization is going to receive the desired outcome. If that is the case, maybe we as Texans fans should stop attending games, because we surely aren't getting the desired outcome of what we want (wins).

I am not a fair weather fan, or bandwagon fan. I am a true Texans fan and that is why I am taking the time to write this letter. I will be here until I either die, or this team is moved. However, that does not mean I will support mediocrity or incompetent decision making. I am proud to be a Houston Texans, but I am embarrassed at the consistent blunders this organization and it's players continue to make.

Please show some level of accountability and make changes to this abysmal team.


Sincerely,


Ashley Ashna
Texans Pride on the Houston Texans official message board.

P.S. You all should send a special thank you to Vinny and his moderator team for cleaning up all of the garbage on the message board that has been created due to this team's decision making. They really do a great job of keeping it well maintained and bearable to be a part of.

one of the best posts I have ever read on this message board. kudos to you ash.

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He's won some games, too, hasn't he?

You act as if he fails every time he touches the ball.

AJ dropped a TD pass. Shouldn't he be fired, too?

Sorry...I think you are looking for a scape goat. The real reason for our team's depression was fired the day after he coached the final regular season game last season.

IMO, you're reaching for a straw. Maybe you should just not go to the games anymore?

Where do people get off thinking that they can hold the money they CHOSE to spend over someone else's head like this?

Make a responsible decision and just don't renew your tickets, etc.

And ask Joey Harrington how it feels to finally be on a team who has a good head coach and management. We're getting there. Don't panic.
Its not looking for a scapegoat. Carr saying "its up to you coach", speaks volumes about his level of competitiveness. He's not a franchise QB, but he sure as hell gets paid like one. QBs that make that kind of money, don't say "its up to you coach" QBs that get paid that kind of money get paid that kind of money to win games. QBs that get paid that kind of money get paid to be a game winner not a game manager. Carr manages games thats it, he doesn't win them. If he was the QB of the bears they would probably win the superbowl, because he won't make mistakes.

At 7 mil a year, he's not cutting it. We could bring in a seasoned vet and get the same results for a hellava lot cheaper. Which is exactly what we need to do.

Sign Plummer and draft his replacement in the draft. I want a QB that won't defer to overtime and wants the ball in his hand when the game is on the line. At 7 mil a year that should be Carr
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In no way do I feel that David Carr is the sole reason for this teams inadequate play. However, he is the Quarterback of this team and carries a large load of the blame. I like David Carr, I want him to be successful. Unfortunately in my opinion we have crossed the threshold of him being successful here in Houston. I hope that he can leave the Texans and be just as successful elsewhere as I wanted him to be when he came here. I don't believe he is a bad player; I feel it is a combination of things that equal the formula:

David Carr + Houston Texans = a bad fit. Maybe he hasn't reached the top of his mountain, but I feel he has reached the top of his mountain of his success as a Houston Texan.

gbshafer, Harrington is a perfect example of a quarterback who needed a change of scenery to help put him back on track. Again, I am not saying Carr is a bad qb, he just needs to move on for a fresh start of success.

I am not hollering in anger that I am not going to renew my PSLs or not go to the games. That's crazy and would never say something like that, even out of anger. You are correct, it is my money to spend, and I will continue to put it into the Houston Texans, but that doesn't mean I don't like every choice they make.

I'm also proud to be a citizen of the United States, but that doesn't mean I support every choice this country makes, nor does it mean I am going to move to France because I'm unhappy. What I will do is vote, write to congress, and express my voice. I will express my concerns with the Texans in the this same format.

I wish I was stat guy who could throw out the games that have had winning drives in the last minute but I am not. But I know I have seen with my own eyes a few games this year that were won in the last minute, coming off long drives. If they can be performed elsewhere in the NFL, they should be able to be performed here.

GO TEXANS AND GO AMERICA! I'M PROUD TO BE APART OF BOTH!
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Nice post, Ashley. On days like today, I'm so glad I don't work there anymore. I do miss talking to you and a few others though.


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Nice post, Ashley. On days like today, I'm so glad I don't work there anymore. I do miss talking to you and a few others though.


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Melissa there you are! Where did you go, what has happened to you? I called you a few weeks ago. . . .and BOOM, NO MELISSA!

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