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Old 12-06-2006   #1
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Dead Money
Coleman, Marcus $2,533,134
Walker, Gary $1,833,333
Wade, Todd $1,666,667
Smith, Robaire $1,391,667
Cowart, Sam $750,000
Deloach, Jerry $562,000
Banks, Tony $400,000
Norris, Moran $400,000
Morency, Vernand $378,000
Hollings, Tony $233,250
Ioane, Junior $200,000
Washington, Todd $167,667
Est. sum of all players with less than $100,000 $889,400

Probable dead money added for next year could be -

Steve Mckinney
Wiegert
Morlon Greenwood
Seth Payne
Dominic Davis
Mark Bruener
Kailee Wong
David Carr
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You need to look closer at Walker, Wade, and Smith to get the full effect.
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so what does this mean??? 15-20 million dollars in dead salary money does not appear to be that bad (hell, the astros had to pay that last year for one player - baggy)... but i am alittle uneducated on the whole "salary cap" situation in the nfl... can a team go over the cap??? if so, why would it matter if we have all that dead money?? ncnair is one of the richest owners in the league, and he is a top 5 revenue maker... i think if someone came around in FA that kubes really wanted, ncnair would fork out the $$$ and get it done. he wants to win, and he knows what he has to do...
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Every team in the league has the "dead money" situation as well, so Houston isn't the only team with that problem..That's just part of the game.
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Every team in the league has the "dead money" situation as well, so Houston isn't the only team with that problem..That's just part of the game.

No team gave three free agents (Walker, Wade, Smith) $32 million in signing bonus only to cut them all two years later.

No team gave up a pair of Day 1 draft choices for a washed up corner.

No team gave up a second round pick in the supplemental for a RB who was out of the league 3 years later.

No team traded half their draft to a division rival to move up a few spots to take a tweener DE/LB who doesn't even start if everyone is healthy.

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IMO, Kubiak shouldn't have cut Robaire Smith or Moran Norris or traded Morency - so at least that much money is on him.
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IMO, Kubiak shouldn't have cut Robaire Smith or Moran Norris or traded Morency - so at least that much money is on him.
Not really, because neither Kubiak or Smith worked the contract. We are probably getting just as good of production from Dalton as we would from Robaire.
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IMO, Kubiak shouldn't have cut Robaire Smith or Moran Norris or traded Morency - so at least that much money is on him.
I agree, except Smith was getting paid too much. We just should've kept him another year anyway.
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Didn't Boselli just come off that list. I think he was Dead Money for 4 years...
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You forgot the deal for P-Burnt.
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Didn't Boselli just come off that list. I think he was Dead Money for 4 years...
No he didn't PBurnt is the washed up corner he is refering to.
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No team gave three free agents (Walker, Wade, Smith) $32 million in signing bonus only to cut them all two years later.

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No team gave up a second round pick in the supplemental for a RB who was out of the league 3 years later.

No team traded half their draft to a division rival to move up a few spots to take a tweener DE/LB who doesn't even start if everyone is healthy.

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No team gave up a pair of Day 1 draft choices for a washed up corner.
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Not really, because neither Kubiak or Smith worked the contract. We are probably getting just as good of production from Dalton as we would from Robaire.
It's funny you say that. I was thinking our Dline has looked it's best so far this season. They're stopping the run decently as well as putting together a decent pass rush. I wouldn't say it doesn't need improvement, but it's been kind of fun watching the D play at times. Dalton is the kind of DTs I like. He's a big run stopping DT. Actually, he put together a nice pass rush at times too.
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No team gave up a pair of Day 1 draft choices for a washed up corner.
I actually caught that and tried to edit it before it posted - my bad.
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It's funny you say that. I was thinking our Dline has looked it's best so far this season. They're stopping the run decently as well as putting together a decent pass rush. I wouldn't say it doesn't need improvement, but it's been kind of fun watching the D play at times. Dalton is the kind of DTs I like. He's a big run stopping DT. Actually, he put together a nice pass rush at times too.
I have noticed that, so maybe I was wrong about not wanting to let Smith go this year. It just seemed so careless at the time to cut our best DT, even if he was getting paid too much.
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I have noticed that, so maybe I was wrong about not wanting to let Smith go this year. It just seemed so careless at the time to cut our best DT, even if he was getting paid too much.
There's always going to be second guessing on what personnel moves are made. I'm not in camp or at practices like some of our other MB members are, so I tend to stay away from any discussion over a release. I might raise an eyebrow over it, but that's about it.
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No team gave three free agents (Walker, Wade, Smith) $32 million in signing bonus only to cut them all two years later.

No team gave up a pair of Day 1 draft choices for a washed up corner.

No team gave up a second round pick in the supplemental for a RB who was out of the league 3 years later.

No team traded half their draft to a division rival to move up a few spots to take a tweener DE/LB who doesn't even start if everyone is healthy.

Somebody stop me...
The prior regime was clueless. The former QB coach is doing children television as bippy the clown.
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The prior regime was clueless. The former QB coach is doing children television as bibby the clown.
I don't think we even had a QB coach. Am I mistaken?
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I don't think we even had a QB coach. Am I mistaken?
Technically, we did, but he was not a real QB coach. They just picked somebody on the coaching staff and let him do it. Don't remember who or exactly what his normal position was.

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