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Old 12-04-2006   #1
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There is probably not a QB in the 2007 draft who is as accomplished as Matt Schaub. He has backed up Michael Vick for last three years and has done well in relief. Schaub will be a restricted free agent next year and Atlanta will tender him the highest offer. That way they will get a first and third pick if anyone else signs him.
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Maximizing your talent is the name...football is the game....

If the Falcons could get him to do it, how ridiculous would Vick be as an "offensive weapon" with Schaub as the QB.....
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Maximizing your talent is the name...football is the game....

If the Falcons could get him to do it, how ridiculous would Vick be as an "offensive weapon" with Schaub as the QB.....
That is the most profound thing I have read today!
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

the bad thing about matt schaub is that he hasnt played to many games, and i know when he was replacing mike vick he did good, but i dunno if im sold on matt schaub
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

Trade for Matt Schaub is a bad idea unless you feel like getting rid of our 1st rounder. They were trying to trade him last year and would accept nothing less than a 1st (Minnesota offered a 2nd).
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

Seeing as how Vick probably isnt going to be in Atl next season, I doubt they would get rid of Shaub.
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

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There is probably not a QB in the 2007 draft who is as accomplished as Matt Schaub. He has backed up Michael Vick for last three years and has done well in relief. Schaub will be a restricted free agent next year and Atlanta will tender him the highest offer. That way they will get a first and third pick if anyone else signs him.
And how far back do you want to set the team? This is a team that needs in no order: OLT?(depending on Spencer), OC, FB, RB, future WR2, DT, DT, OLB, OLB, CB2, FS, and an upgrade at QB plus other positions. You cannot fill all these spots in 1 year, and you want to give up 2 picks that could fill 2 of the spots we must have to be a middle of the road team.

Schaub is good no doubts, but is he that much of an upgrade that you give up 2 starters for him? Live with Carr or trade him and live with Sage for one year, but do not give up 2 future starters on a team that needs just about everything.
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

Well lets go after Farve.
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Trade for Matt Schaub is a bad idea unless you feel like getting rid of our 1st rounder. They were trying to trade him last year and would accept nothing less than a 1st (Minnesota offered a 2nd).
Isn't Schaub a free agent after this year? I think he is, and thats why Atlanta was trying to trade him so badly.

But I could be wrong.
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Well lets go after Farve.
Never get him.

He'll probably retire anyway.

He'd get killed behind our O-line....LITERALLY.

If he managed to live long enough to see a receiver get downfield, he'd throw more interceptions in one game than Carr has this year.

He'd do a great job of LEADING our team to ANOTHER QB.

Only good part is that Carr would beat him out and it would raise Carr's confidence to an all-time, unbelievably unreal level....which might be a bad thing after all.
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i'd trade two first rounders for schaub.
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i'd trade two first rounders for schaub.
And you call yorself draft expert?
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yes. yes i do. what that has to do with schaub, i don't know.
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Vick hating is out of control.

Fact:He's not a good guy.
Fact:He has thrown for 15 TD's and only 9 INTs.
Fact:He has a horrible completion percentage.
Fact:He throws almost as many TD's per attempt (1/20) as Peyton (1/18).
Fact:He's on pace to run for 1200+ yds at 9 ypc.
Fact:He's run for 50 1st downs (4+ per game). LT has run for 61 (5+ per game)
Fact:He has 11 runs of 20+yds. LT has 10 runs of 20+ yards.
Fact:He's been plagued by horrible drops on at least 3 TD passes.
Fact: He has a ridiculous arm and can throw a great ball.
Fact: He lacks touch, contributes to poor rythmn with receivers/drops.
Fact: He lacks vision due to his height.
Fact: He doesn't spend enough time with his receivers in the offseason.

So he's nearly as efficient at getting the ball in the endzone as Peyton. He's nearly as effective moving the chains as LT (moreso on a per attempt basis) and more of a big play threat AND his running opens up the run game for his backs.

Opinion:If you were building a franchise around a QB tomorrow, Vick would go after Manning, Brady, Palmer, Brees and VY, but ahead of McNabb (age/injuries), Leinart, and Rivers.
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Vick hating is out of control.

Fact:He's not a good guy.
Fact:He has thrown for 15 TD's and only 9 INTs.
Fact:He has a horrible completion percentage.
Fact:He throws almost as many TD's per attempt (1/20) as Peyton (1/18).
Fact:He's on pace to run for 1200+ yds at 9 ypc.
Fact:He's run for 50 1st downs (4+ per game). LT has run for 61 (5+ per game)
Fact:He has 11 runs of 20+yds. LT has 10 runs of 20+ yards.
Fact:He's been plagued by horrible drops on at least 3 TD passes.
Fact: He has a ridiculous arm and can throw a great ball.
Fact: He lacks touch, contributes to poor rythmn with receivers/drops.
Fact: He lacks vision due to his height.
Fact: He doesn't spend enough time with his receivers in the offseason.

So he's nearly as efficient at getting the ball in the endzone as Peyton. He's nearly as effective moving the chains as LT (moreso on a per attempt basis) and more of a big play threat AND his running opens up the run game for his backs.

Opinion:If you were building a franchise around a QB tomorrow, Vick would go after Manning, Brady, Palmer, Brees and VY, but ahead of McNabb (age/injuries), Leinart, and Rivers.

Were is David Carr in this list. Oh wait dont anwser that.
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

Trade back 5 to 10 spots in the first round and pickup a extra second round pick. Trade a second round pick and next years third or second for matt schaub.

Round 1 Laron Landry
Round 2 Rufus Alexander
Round 3 oline.
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Default Re: Forget drafting a QB, trade for Matt Schaub

Time to repeat myself:

WHY TRADE FOR SCHAUB WHEN HE'LL BE A F'IN FREE AGENT

He signed a three year deal before teh 04 season which makes him a free this offseason. It'll come down to money not draft picks.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/ATL/7532410

After more research he's a RFA, so we may have to aprt with a draft pick if we want him; and it'll depend on what level the Falcons put him at.

My question is, since I dount Schaub we'll re-sing with teh Falcons oesn't he become a UFA then?

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagents.html

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No matter what we do giving up draft picks IS NOT an option. There are to many good athletes to choose from. Not once in a lifetimes as some were considered last year, but solid players.
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but ahead of McNabb (age/injuries), Leinart, and Rivers.
in your dreams pal.
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in your dreams pal.
Vick's 26, McNabb's 30, coming off an ACL tear, wearing down every year, etc. I love Donovan, but he'll be 32 by the time he's 100% again.

Rivers is 25 (in 3 days), and has had a great season with the best tight end, and RB (of all time?) on his team.

Leinart is 23, has Boldin and Fitz, yet hasn't shown the immediate polish many expected. Leinart is the most arguable of this bunch, I chose Vick because I think a QB needs to be more dynamic in this era.

Vick will be chronically overhyped by fools and underrated by experts. The jury is still out on whether he's talented enough to be a "winner" in spite of his character issues.
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