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Old 12-04-2006   #1
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Default So is this what Carr has to do?

Here is my question, last week, Carr goes for 72% completion, 321 yards, 1 td and a CRITICAL drop by Andre to deflate the team in the 2nd quarter.

THIS WEEK, Carr goes for -5 yards with a 50% completion, YET Carr haters and the media blamed Carr for everything short of 9-11 (and we are still looking into his involvement)! In fact every week I hear how bad Carr plays despite a lousy run game, a defense that is just now getting a hang of things and a bad O-line.

So is that the mark with the stats above? If Carr goes for 73% and 322 yards, that makes him a good QB?
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Here is my question, last week, Carr goes for 72% completion, 321 yards, 1 td and a CRITICAL drop by Andre to deflate the team in the 2nd quarter.

THIS WEEK, Carr goes for -5 yards with a 50% completion, YET Carr haters and the media blamed Carr for everything short of 9-11 (and we are still looking into his involvement)! In fact every week I hear how bad Carr plays despite a lousy run game, a defense that is just now getting a hang of things and a bad O-line.

So is that the mark with the stats above? If Carr goes for 73% and 322 yards, that makes him a good QB?
I'm not really sure where this thread is going.....

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Carr will be a good QB when Carr is a good QB....

Who cares about stats ?
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Default Re: So is this what Carr has to do?

IM just trying to figure out when Carr has a bad game? Last week, the media and people here blamed Carr for having a bad game. This week, he had a bad game, so I am still trying to figure out when he will be good?
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Default Re: So is this what Carr has to do?

I dunno, but based upon the results of the Texans second half run/no-pass offense, does Kubiak and his Offense Brain Trust have the Texans come out in the Single-Wing formation this Sunday in Reliant ?
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IM just trying to figure out when Carr has a bad game? Last week, the media and people here blamed Carr for having a bad game. This week, he had a bad game, so I am still trying to figure out when he will be good?
I guess you kinda have to use your good judgement and football knowledge....

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Here is my question, last week, Carr goes for 72% completion, 321 yards, 1 td and a CRITICAL drop by Andre to deflate the team in the 2nd quarter.

THIS WEEK, Carr goes for -5 yards with a 50% completion, YET Carr haters and the media blamed Carr for everything short of 9-11 (and we are still looking into his involvement)! In fact every week I hear how bad Carr plays despite a lousy run game, a defense that is just now getting a hang of things and a bad O-line.

So is that the mark with the stats above? If Carr goes for 73% and 322 yards, that makes him a good QB?
It's obvious your analysys of the game is very stat driven.... should come in handy if you're ever working for ESPN, or a fantasy Football league consultant.

he threw the ball 54 times, for 322 yards, and we got into the redzone twice.... if the field he was playing on was 150 yards long, then he did a good job. Otherwise, he wasted a bunch of time.

Same thing with going 22 for 22..... what did we get out of it?? a field goal?? maybe two??

those two games, and yesterdays amount to about the same thing.... a laughing stock.

Tell you what, I really don't care. I'm not married to AJ, or Moulds... or Owen, or Dayne, or Wali.... I really couldn't care less. we either need to get rid of all those guys, or change our QB. On that list, only AJ & Carr are constants, so lets get rid of both of them.

But there is no doubt in my mind, that that AJ guy will be making regular trips to hawaii, and that other fella will still be trying to learn an NFL playbook....... if he's lucky.
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last week, Carr goes for 72% completion, 321 yards, 1 td
And we lost...

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THIS WEEK, Carr goes for -5 yards with a 50% completion,
...and we won...

We win and lose in spite of David Carr.

I don't think Carr is the problem...but I don't think he'll ever be the solution, either.
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Oakland has the top rated pass defense in the NFL, but to get negative yardage is proof positive that the QB has some issues. We're very fortunate to have won the game.
So the O-line sucking, and the fact that there were very few pass plays called has no bearing on the negetive yardage? Pretty weak assesment.
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So the O-line sucking, and the fact that there were very few pass plays called has no bearing on the negetive yardage? Pretty weak assesment.
Haven't you heard why Kubiak stopped calling passing plays?? He thought David was a liability to the team.
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So the O-line sucking, and the fact that there were very few pass plays called has no bearing on the negetive yardage? Pretty weak assesment.
Carr sucked on Sunday....

There is no passing the buck on his suckiness....
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Kubiak on 610....now
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Here is my question, last week, Carr goes for 72% completion, 321 yards, 1 td and a CRITICAL drop by Andre to deflate the team in the 2nd quarter.

THIS WEEK, Carr goes for -5 yards with a 50% completion, YET Carr haters and the media blamed Carr for everything short of 9-11 (and we are still looking into his involvement)! In fact every week I hear how bad Carr plays despite a lousy run game, a defense that is just now getting a hang of things and a bad O-line.

So is that the mark with the stats above? If Carr goes for 73% and 322 yards, that makes him a good QB?

FORGET THE STATS! Carr has proved that stats are meaningless. What Carr has to do is be a leader. Can he? Can this be learned? I doubt it. See VY, Born to Lead.
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Default Re: So is this what Carr has to do?

The VY example is a very poor and absurd, borderline trolling one to throw out.

If you want to question Carr's ability to bounce back from bad games, then you should be using his return following his benching in the Tennessee game, which is (I feel) the best way to criticize how he will bounce back.

What can we learn from it? Carr can bounce back from bad performances with respectful showings (given that he was 1 Cook fumble away from being able to create a comeback), but he will begin declining again in terms of performance (reference: the last two games).

Carr can bounce back from bad showings, but I'm afraid he can't consistently perform at an acceptable level.

With that said, I believe that Carr will rebound and put on a strong performance against the Titans. However, I fear he will regress again afterwards.
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Why does it always have to be just the line or just Carr? Why can't they both stink? Right now we are playing with a pawn shop line but if you think that Carr has nothing to do with our offensive woes then you are being pretty naive. I think both need work and different players. imo yesterday was the beginning of the end for David Carr in Houston. Looking at Kubiak yesterday reminded me of how my Dad looked when our dog wouldn't stop crapping on the living room floor.
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The VY example is a very poor and absurd, borderline trolling one to throw out.

If you want to question Carr's ability to bounce back from bad games, then you should be using his return following his benching in the Tennessee game, which is (I feel) the best way to criticize how he will bounce back.

What can we learn from it? Carr can bounce back from bad performances with respectful showings (given that he was 1 Cook fumble away from being able to create a comeback), but he will begin declining again in terms of performance (reference: the last two games).

Carr can bounce back from bad showings, but I'm afraid he can't consistently perform at an acceptable level.

With that said, I believe that Carr will rebound and put on a strong performance against the Titans. However, I fear he will regress again afterwards.
he basicaly was benched on sunday. 3 passing attempts in a half? had sage not be IRed, he would have played the second half. lets see how DC, the coaching staff and the Oline reacts...oh how the plot thickens
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I think their main complaint is really a lack of TD passes, some of which would need to be long. I still say the lack of long stuff is the TEAM's problem though.
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FORGET THE STATS! Carr has proved that stats are meaningless. What Carr has to do is be a leader. Can he? Can this be learned? I doubt it. See VY, Born to Lead.

I see Carr leading this team all the time.
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Default Re: So is this what Carr has to do?

Ok

between -5 yards, 50% completion and 322 yards, 72% completion is a bad game for Carr

anything above 72% and 321 yards is a bad game! Ive got the Carr haters pegged now!

Dont count dropped passes, and dont count other peoples fumbles like in the crunch time at the end of the half or game, its all Osama Bin Carrs fault.
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[quote=xtruroyaltyx;521847]I'm not really sure where this thread is going.....

But....


Carr will be a good QB when Carr is a good QB....

Which most likely will NEVER happen! Let's face it, he keeps making the same sophomoric mistakes week after week. He was never a back-up, always a very poor starter. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him at this point.

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So Goldeagle ... what in your mind makes Carr special ? What makes you think he has what it takes to lead the team to 2 or 3 come back wins a year ?

Carr has'nt had it easy but he has not made it easy on himself . I think he created this country club atmosphere by bringing his Dad to practice and so on . Thats just comical to me if anybody should bring dear old dad to practice it would be Eli or Peyton , it just shows you reputations are easier maintained than retrieved .
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