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Yes draft him. He is it. 23 36.51%
Yes draft him. Play it out, he could be trade value or a good number 2 guy. 22 34.92%
No, not him. But draft someone else for QB. 10 15.87%
No, not him. Carr is the it. 8 12.70%
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Old 12-04-2006   #1
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A quarterback with a 4 letter last name is getting a lot praise lately. There are a lot of avenues we could take and lets play out this option, whether it be right, or wrong, or dumb.

Lets say we keep Carr for another year. That way we could draft a QB, let him grow, and release or trade Carr the following season for what ever reason if this scenario pans out that Carr wont make it in the NFL.

This is meant to be a trade Carr by any means necessary and put anyone back there but him, just a scenario.

I got some questions for some of the intelligent posters on this board that dont let thier emotions get in the way of sound reasoning...

What round/pick do you think he is going to go?

Is he worth the pick to have him come here and play in Houston if we were going to draft a QB?

If we are going to draft a QB, should we try for a better prospect or is he the man?

Is he just the sentimental favorite since we passed and the all powerful omnipotent Vince Young because he is also Texan native and plays for UH?

Is he the answer to get the fans back to being Texan proud? To get some fans interested again?

Lots of questions guys I know.

But this could be an opportune time get this team going. We could even bring in Plummer(I am not a big fan but hey, you know its going to happen) for that two years. Trade Carr this year while whatever value he has around the NFL(he seems to be somewhat respected around the league) for something. Chicago, Cleveland, Miami, Washington, Oakland, Baltimore, Tampa, and Minnesota could be a few teams that could have an interest in a backup that could be a potential starter.

Again, this isnt a ship David out by any means necessary and plug anyone but him in at QB thread. This is just a discussion for battering around if we could trade Carr and maybe be able to plug a hometown favorite. Its an opportunity that only comes around twice, apparently back to back.

I am a Carr supporter, but a Texan first. My dream is that he will lead us to a SB and vindicate himself and get the ultimate reward for what Capers and Casserly did to him to ruin him. I hope he still does this, but that star I am wishing on may have turned out to be a satellite in the sky.
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I dont know how this got here, but I thought it was going into the Bull Pen.
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

I don't know.

I think we might look to draft a QB somewhere in the 3rd or 4th round but I think Kolb'll be gone by then.

I'm honestly not all that impressed with any of the QBs coming out this year except for Quinn and I still think he's overrated, but it's an inexact science. Maybe Kolb's the one, maybe it's Brohm. Maybe it's Colt Brennan down the road.

Maybe JaMarcus Russell will suddenly "get it" and be The Man.

Or not.
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If Carr is not the answer trade the first and third picks to Atlanta for Schaub.
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If Carr is not the answer trade the first and third picks to Atlanta for Schaub.
Oh ya, that would work well for us. Give up a rb and a cb while we are at it...
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

Its not hard to see which way I voted.


I think he would be a perfect fit here. He can sit for a year while Carr gets his final chance next season and learn the ins and outs of the NFL. He plays in a system at U of H that is similar to Kubiaks filled with short to intermediate passes and has the arm strength to succeed at the next level. On top of that, he is a hometown guy (I dont care about Vince Young) and I think the city would rally around him.
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

I like Kolb very much and I think he will be a good QB at next level on a WCO team. He has all the intangible that Carr lacks but his arm is very average.

Despite that he is worth taking in third round grooming him for few years.
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

To answer each of your points....

What round/pick do you think he is going to go? Right now they have him pegged at either late 3rd....early 4th. HOWEVER, if he plays how he did last Friday for the LIBERTY BOWL and Senior Bowl, then it wouldn't surprise me to see him shoot up the way CUTLER did last year. It's in his hands (literally)
Is he worth the pick to have him come here and play in Houston if we were going to draft a QB? Hard to say. Many thought David Klingler was going to translate well into the pros...so, it's anyone's guess, unfortunately.

If we are going to draft a QB, should we try for a better prospect or is he the man? Right now, many have Quinn, Smith significantly above KOLB....but I have my doubts there will be a big gap by the time the draft is here. KOLB performed VERY well with weak talent around him. Not unlike what we'd need from him.

Is he just the sentimental favorite since we passed and the all powerful omnipotent Vince Young because he is also Texan native and plays for UH? Many of those REALLY upset about not taking VY were UT supporters and/or grads. If the goal is to appease them, you'd need to draft as follows : CB Tarell Brown RB Selvin Young DB Michael Griffin DB Aaron Ross OT Justin Blalock DE Tim Crowder and PROMISE to draft Colt McCoy in 2008 (which I believe is his 1st year of eligibility since he redshirted last year).

Is he the answer to get the fans back to being Texan proud? To get some fans interested again? Unfortunately, even though KOLB has played in HOUSTON and is a Native Texan, U of H-supporters don't voice their opinion (or likely care) as much as UT and A&M fans. There just isn't that passion for a commuter school like U of H (this was true even when we were Nationally ranked in the late-80's & 1990. Not until this past Friday, have fans of U of H really showed their support in full-force (largest crowd ever of 31,818 at Robertson Stadium).

With ALL of that said...regardless of how this season ends...I have COMPLETE confidence in Kubes and the Crew to get this draft just as right as they did last year. Maybe they'll even call on ole' Dan Reeves to get some "outside" perspective
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I voted yes. I am a UH fan, a UH Homer, and if he weren't a Coog I would vote no. I have my Cougar Red glasses on ... no doubt, but I don't care, at least I admit it.

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I voted yes. I am a UH fan, a UH Homer, and if he weren't a Coog I would vote no. I have my Cougar Red glasses on ... no doubt, but I don't care, at least I admit it.

Check out the link in my signature if you have a couple minutes to spare.


I am a UH fan here too and I would love to see Kolb play for the Texans. It could work out like Hakeem and Drexler did for the Rockets.

BTW I signed your petition.
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

I don't have any allegience to ANY team in Texas. Given that, I think he looks like a reasonable development type for a WCO team like us. Looks a little short in the arm strength, but that isn't as big a factor in the WCO that it is in other systems, seems to make good reads and decisions. We can't dump Carr as the CAP hit would be horrible, so bring the kid in for a 3 or better yet a 4. let him sit 1-2 years and the trade either Carr or him based on who is doing it.
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He would be a FANTASTIC insurance plan........
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Default Re: Kevin Kolb-Should he be our QB? The unofficial official thread

I say NO. Kubiak usually keeps 2 QBs around, so unless Sage or Carr leave (which I want both to stay), then it wouldnt do much good to bring Kolb in. He's an interesting prospect, but I feel we have too many needs to draft a hit or miss prospect at a position thats only really an upgrade, not so much a need.
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I say NO. Kubiak usually keeps 2 QBs around, so unless Sage or Carr leave (which I want both to stay), then it wouldnt do much good to bring Kolb in. He's an interesting prospect, but I feel we have too many needs to draft a hit or miss prospect at a position thats only really an upgrade, not so much a need.
Kubiak carries two QBs when he already has a for sure fire STARTER

If Kubiak feels by the next draft that Carr or Sage may not be the answer and he'd like to take a guy to develop from scratch (which is the reason why he's here) later in the draft........He won't have a problem taking Kolb.
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I wouldn't mind taking Kolb in the mid rd. for our future starting QB(like 4~5 yrs from now). He's got arm and able to run as well. Sounds like a fit for WCO. I think U of H will start producing quality QB in the future for NFL. U of H reminds me of how U of Miami used to be. (I think coach/s are former U of Miami) In U of H Offense, QB can put up big numbers if he does it right. This system should attracts top QB prospects from High school. So I said, we should be seeing more quality QB coming out from U of H in the future. But, who knows I am just an amateur.
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kolb is good, but he's not someone you invest your future into as a rookie. if you really want a safe bet, go after matt schaub.
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kolb is good, but he's not someone you invest your future into as a rookie. if you really want a safe bet, go after matt schaub.
Matt Schaub is likely to cost a 1st round pick to get. They will high tender him which carries a 1st and 3rd with it unless someone negotiates it down and Atlanta has little reason to agree to much less.
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yup. and that's a bargain.
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So Matt Schaub is now worth a top 10 draft pick? Gotcha.
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Matt Shaub is not a garrantee fix either........he's good, but nothing is a garrantee.

What did Miami give up for Feely........how did that work out...just wondering.

For all we know Matt Shaub could turn into the next Feely. I'm not saying I believe he will, but it is possible.

At a 1st and a 3rd, its not worth the risk.

Kolb who would cost at highest a 3rd is worth the risk and is a low risk.
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