A Win is a Win - isn't it? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Texan1 · 12-03-2006

That has to be one of the worst victories I've ever seen - at the pro level (or college too). Is it just me or were the Raiders trying to give that game away?

I lost track of the number of Raiders turnovers.

We HAD to have set a record for unforced turnovers today.

Goldeagle · 12-03-2006

Heh, I'll take it.

Reminded me when we beat the Stealers with a total of 47 yards offense!

Texan Asylum · 12-03-2006

I'd slice my wrists after this game, but the scar tissue from all the previous ones is getting tougher and tougher to go through. :brickwall

TexanFanInCC · 12-03-2006

winning is nice, but the texans shouldnt be satisifed by the way they won. against the raiders, you really ought to win in a more impressive manner than the texans did today. yeah i love winning, but for a change, lets put together some impressive wins. the texans have few of them in 5 yrs.

valleytexfan · 12-03-2006

I'll take it. This is a game we would've definitely lost last year.
That doesn't mean I'm totally satisfied, though.

TexansLucky13 · 12-03-2006

I am fine with this win. I knew it was going to be nasty.

OzzO · 12-03-2006

Better an ugly win than an ugly loss. Can you imagine this place if we would've lost the game against Oakland?

Goldeagle · 12-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by BattleRedToro

No a win isn't a win to Carr haters. To them a win is a loss.

True

Koolaid Time · 12-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan1

That has to be one of the worst victories I've ever seen - at the pro level (or college too). Is it just me or were the Raiders trying to give that game away?

I lost track of the number of Raiders turnovers.

We HAD to have set a record for unforced turnovers today.

This "game" was a 3 hour blooper reel....

thegr8fan · 12-03-2006

Quote:

No a win isn't a win to Carr haters.

after the performance of Carr today I can say,IN MY CARR HATING OPINION, that this Win is definitely a WIN. In more ways than one.

Hervoyel · 12-03-2006

Sadly I'm going to say that my answer is no. A win is not necessarily always a win. If the Texans looked like this ten weeks of the year and posted a 10-6 record would anyone here be happy about our football team? Would anyone here think they were really any good?

I've had questions about our defense from early on and I am taking into consideration that these were the Raiders when I say this. The defense is headed in the right direction. They're making progress and they've got a foundation to build around. At all three levels there are some players who do the job and now, on that side of the ball, we're starting to see something that gives us hope.

The offense is pitiful. Yes we have three starting offensive linemen out for the season. The loss of Spencer was bad. Losing Flanagan however shouldn't be this devastating and losing Weigert should almost be counted as a plus (It would on most teams). The offense is in deep trouble right now and regressing steadily.

houstonhurricane · 12-03-2006

The worst part of this question, is that you could have asked it for the last five years. The offense is horrendous and seems to be declining.

Quite simply, next week is our "playoff game." This franchise cannot afford to lose at home to VY - especially if our offensive troubles continue.

**edo783** · 12-03-2006

A win is a win and with this one, we have doubled last years out put and could end with a 6-10 record (more likely 5-11) which is what most rational folks expected and considered a good year. We aren't doing it gracefully, but then , if we could win that way then we would be winning more.

**Runner** · 12-03-2006

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Originally Posted by edo783

We aren't doing it gracefully...

Understatment of the year when applied to the Raiders game.

Napa Auto Parts · 12-03-2006

Coach capers would of love a win like this i can just hear him sayig well we executed to perfection.

ThaShark316 · 12-03-2006

Yeah let's NOT take a win...what a group of fans we have.

David23 · 12-04-2006

That was one of the ugliest wins i have seen, but who cares at this point. We WON!

Texans Horror · 12-04-2006

This game reminded me of the Cleveland game last year. U-G-L-Y! Somebody had to win this one. And it's not like the Texans didn't give the Raiders plenty of oppurtunities. They had some nasty calls and just didn't protect the ball. And then the Texans had -5 passing yards. My understanding is that our offense stunk so bad that they are still Lysoling the place down.

On the other hand, kudos to the defense, which stripped the ball and did keep a Raiders team out of the endzone on the billion chances they had to get there. And kudos to Mathis for coming back in a BIG way. Twice he nearly had kicks returned for touchdowns. Special teams and defense played exceptional. Too bad the offense (not counting Dayne) couldn't keep up.

the wonger need food · 12-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan1

I lost track of the number of Raiders turnovers.

We HAD to have set a record for unforced turnovers today.

Unforced turnovers? Did you watch the game? Every one of the turnovers was forced.

**Double Barrel** · 12-04-2006

SCOREBOARD!!

it's all that matters

12-03-2006	#1
Texan1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 178 Rep Power: 8	A Win is a Win - isn't it? That has to be one of the worst victories I've ever seen - at the pro level (or college too). Is it just me or were the Raiders trying to give that game away? I lost track of the number of Raiders turnovers. We HAD to have set a record for unforced turnovers today.

12-03-2006	#2
Goldeagle Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spring Age: 40 Posts: 1,816 Rep Power: 11	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? Heh, I'll take it. Reminded me when we beat the Stealers with a total of 47 yards offense!

12-03-2006	#3
Texan Asylum Christian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Age: 49 Posts: 5,949 Rep Power: 13326	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? I'd slice my wrists after this game, but the scar tissue from all the previous ones is getting tougher and tougher to go through. :brickwall __________________

12-03-2006	#4
TexanFanInCC Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richmond / Corpus Christi Age: 28 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 10	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? winning is nice, but the texans shouldnt be satisifed by the way they won. against the raiders, you really ought to win in a more impressive manner than the texans did today. yeah i love winning, but for a change, lets put together some impressive wins. the texans have few of them in 5 yrs. __________________ wishlist: DT, SS, CB, FS ....see the trend? (recipe for greatness)

12-03-2006	#5
valleytexfan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rio Grande Valley, TX Posts: 1,141 Rep Power: 274	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? I'll take it. This is a game we would've definitely lost last year. That doesn't mean I'm totally satisfied, though.

12-03-2006	#6
TexansLucky13 53d Signal Batt Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 4,764 Rep Power: 1060	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? I am fine with this win. I knew it was going to be nasty. __________________

12-03-2006	#7
OzzO .. and then? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: northside Posts: 6,129 Rep Power: 3574	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? Better an ugly win than an ugly loss. Can you imagine this place if we would've lost the game against Oakland?

12-03-2006	#11
Hervoyel The Right Track Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 12,918 Rep Power: 61005	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? Sadly I'm going to say that my answer is no. A win is not necessarily always a win. If the Texans looked like this ten weeks of the year and posted a 10-6 record would anyone here be happy about our football team? Would anyone here think they were really any good? I've had questions about our defense from early on and I am taking into consideration that these were the Raiders when I say this. The defense is headed in the right direction. They're making progress and they've got a foundation to build around. At all three levels there are some players who do the job and now, on that side of the ball, we're starting to see something that gives us hope. The offense is pitiful. Yes we have three starting offensive linemen out for the season. The loss of Spencer was bad. Losing Flanagan however shouldn't be this devastating and losing Weigert should almost be counted as a plus (It would on most teams). The offense is in deep trouble right now and regressing steadily. __________________ A wise man once said "...well at this point it's all been hashed out and you either see it or don't. Hoping for a win next week" - HTown2ATX

12-03-2006	#12
houstonhurricane All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York Age: 42 Posts: 774 Rep Power: 147	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? The worst part of this question, is that you could have asked it for the last five years. The offense is horrendous and seems to be declining. Quite simply, next week is our "playoff game." This franchise cannot afford to lose at home to VY - especially if our offensive troubles continue. __________________ Go Canes!

12-03-2006	#13
edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? A win is a win and with this one, we have doubled last years out put and could end with a 6-10 record (more likely 5-11) which is what most rational folks expected and considered a good year. We aren't doing it gracefully, but then , if we could win that way then we would be winning more. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

12-03-2006	#15
Napa Auto Parts Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,186 Rep Power: 15	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? Coach capers would of love a win like this i can just hear him sayig well we executed to perfection. Last edited by Napa Auto Parts; 12-03-2006 at 11:34 PM.

12-03-2006	#16
ThaShark316 #28 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rosharon, TX Age: 28 Posts: 2,277 Rep Power: 8460	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? Yeah let's NOT take a win...what a group of fans we have. __________________ Trip to the New Meadowlands in 2014? I'm down. You'll get an ELITE QB when you apologize to Warren Moon, Houston

12-04-2006	#17
David23 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The RGV Age: 27 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? That was one of the ugliest wins i have seen, but who cares at this point. We WON!

12-04-2006	#18
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? This game reminded me of the Cleveland game last year. U-G-L-Y! Somebody had to win this one. And it's not like the Texans didn't give the Raiders plenty of oppurtunities. They had some nasty calls and just didn't protect the ball. And then the Texans had -5 passing yards. My understanding is that our offense stunk so bad that they are still Lysoling the place down. On the other hand, kudos to the defense, which stripped the ball and did keep a Raiders team out of the endzone on the billion chances they had to get there. And kudos to Mathis for coming back in a BIG way. Twice he nearly had kicks returned for touchdowns. Special teams and defense played exceptional. Too bad the offense (not counting Dayne) couldn't keep up. __________________ "It is what it is."

12-04-2006	#20
Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,246 Rep Power: 84022	Re: A Win is a Win - isn't it? SCOREBOARD!! it's all that matters __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

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