I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

ItsAJtime · 11-28-2006

As long as Manning is in Indy, we may not beat them.

Young will continue to improve, so when Manning is falling, Young should be in his prime.

We may not be division winners until another coaching staff, and get a completely different team.

profan · 11-28-2006

Young has one great game and everyone thinks we will never win. That's BS. It takes more than a great qb to win in this league. We will be okay. I guess everone expects us to win with our two O tackles out, center with broken ribs, defense hurting, etc . Give me a break. This team is much improved over last year and will continue to improve.

texflex513 · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by profan

Young has one great game and everyone thinks we will never win. That's BS. It takes more than a great qb to win in this league. We will be okay. I guess everone expects us to win with our two O tackles out, center with broken ribs, defense hurting, etc . Give me a break. This team is much improved over last year and will continue to improve.

you took the letter right off of my keyboard lol. good post.

ItsAJtime · 11-28-2006

I am a Texans "homer", but I don't like the pattern we are in. I have been a Carr fan since day one. I also fought for him this weekend, but I am worried that the whole team has the attitude of oh well we are down 14-0 and we can't come back. I think Favre would believe he can come back from 28-0. I don't think Carr believes that. I hope I am wrong.

We are definately out this season, and have to bring in too many new personell next season to be an early favorite. I worry that our good players now will leave or be fading by the time we get this system going.

ItsAJtime · 11-28-2006

I am not a Young fan because of one game. Young ahas a winning attitude though. Young will be a top ten QB in the near future.

dtran04 · 11-28-2006

I guess we should bring in Ken Dorsey. He was a winning pedigree too.

Carr Bombed · 11-28-2006

All we have to do is keep building the defense, with a great defense it doesn't matter how good the other teams in your division are because you can stop them. With a great defense you can take your team on the road and win late in the season, in bad weather.

Defense is the key, I really don't care what another team in this division is fronting, it all starts here.

tsip · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by profan

Young has one great game and everyone thinks we will never win. That's BS. It takes more than a great qb to win in this league. We will be okay. I guess everone expects us to win with our two O tackles out, center with broken ribs, defense hurting, etc . Give me a break. This team is much improved over last year and will continue to improve.

...just the opp I think--most folks don't think we're going to win anytime soon and are not much improved over last year

Texans Horror · 11-28-2006

Tennessee fans think they can win out the rest of the season, which is much more difficult than the Texans. I think they are in the "play-off" mentality that Texans fans tend to get into after a win. Once they lose this week, though, they should be back to pondering if VY was a solid pick (YES!) and thinking they are losers, too.

kfranco_utexas · 11-28-2006

Vince Young will be a stud in the NFL. Period.

I have no regrets with Mario, he looks like a beast out there. Fortunately, because if not....i would be demanding some choppings.

**Runner** · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by ItsAJtime

I am not a Young fan because of one game. Young ahas a winning attitude though. Young will be a top ten QB in the near future.

I think the Titans as a whole, even with a similar record as the Texans, have a winning attitude from the players through the coaches. They've been winners before and know they will be in the future. That gives them more confidence during the rebuilding process.

TheOgre · 11-28-2006

It is funny that the 3-4 gives Peyton fits, yet we went away from it. The only 4-3 defense I can think of that ever gives Indy problems is Jacksonville.

We just had our first solid draft in five tries. We truly need two more solid drafts to get this ship up from the bottom of the ocean.

We really need either a playmaking QB or RB on offense, right now we have neither. Also, we need to figure out how to stop teams from passing at will on us. We have made J.P. "NFL" (see Glanville's definition of "NFL") Losman, Mark "no longer starting" Brunell, and Chad "my arm hurts" Pennington look like Pro Bowlers this year. Heck we beat Buffalo handily if we have a half-decent CB instead of Faggins.

11-28-2006

To me that one was just one heck of a fluky game that Young pulled them back from. A penalty on 4th down and ghost whistle, ok.

Let me see what he can do back to back. Titan lovers.

eric138 · 11-28-2006

Vince Young didn't do anything.. When he can pull off what Peyton Manning did against them buccs in '03 then we can start to think he may be a good one. until then he is just a Vick wanna be.

11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by SESupergenius

To me that one was just one heck of a fluky game that Young pulled them back from. A penalty on 4th down and ghost whistle, ok.

Let me see what he can do back to back. Titan lovers.

What about the I don't want a roughing the QB play on 4th and 10. That would have sealed the win for the Giants. But with all the BS roughing calls he let up on VY and he took off for a first down. That win should have never happened.

BuffaloBills06 · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

It is funny that the 3-4 gives Peyton fits, yet we went away from it. The only 4-3 defense I can think of that ever gives Indy problems is Jacksonville.

We just had our first solid draft in five tries. We truly need two more solid drafts to get this ship up from the bottom of the ocean.

We really need either a playmaking QB or RB on offense, right now we have neither. Also, we need to figure out how to stop teams from passing at will on us. We have made J.P. "NFL" (see Glanville's definition of "NFL") Losman, Mark "no longer starting" Brunell, and Chad "my arm hurts" Pennington look like Pro Bowlers this year. Heck we beat Buffalo handily if we have a half-decent CB instead of Faggins.

Wow JP has 2 back 2 back game winning drives and his 1st career win was against the Texans and you still cant give him his props

Titan "Tack" Fan · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by profan

It takes more than a great qb to win in this league.

OK. Peyton Manning has been in the league now since '98 and you are still saying things like this?

11-28-2006	#1
ItsAJtime Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 42 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 7	I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. As long as Manning is in Indy, we may not beat them. Young will continue to improve, so when Manning is falling, Young should be in his prime. We may not be division winners until another coaching staff, and get a completely different team.

11-28-2006	#2
profan Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 368 Rep Power: 10	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. Young has one great game and everyone thinks we will never win. That's BS. It takes more than a great qb to win in this league. We will be okay. I guess everone expects us to win with our two O tackles out, center with broken ribs, defense hurting, etc . Give me a break. This team is much improved over last year and will continue to improve.

11-28-2006	#4
ItsAJtime Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 42 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 7	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. I am a Texans "homer", but I don't like the pattern we are in. I have been a Carr fan since day one. I also fought for him this weekend, but I am worried that the whole team has the attitude of oh well we are down 14-0 and we can't come back. I think Favre would believe he can come back from 28-0. I don't think Carr believes that. I hope I am wrong. We are definately out this season, and have to bring in too many new personell next season to be an early favorite. I worry that our good players now will leave or be fading by the time we get this system going.

11-28-2006	#5
ItsAJtime Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 42 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 7	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. I am not a Young fan because of one game. Young ahas a winning attitude though. Young will be a top ten QB in the near future.

11-28-2006	#6
dtran04 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 1,456 Rep Power: 1226	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. I guess we should bring in Ken Dorsey. He was a winning pedigree too.

11-28-2006	#7
Carr Bombed Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wherever the US govt. sends me Posts: 12,615 Rep Power: 18373	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. All we have to do is keep building the defense, with a great defense it doesn't matter how good the other teams in your division are because you can stop them. With a great defense you can take your team on the road and win late in the season, in bad weather. Defense is the key, I really don't care what another team in this division is fronting, it all starts here.

11-28-2006	#9
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. Tennessee fans think they can win out the rest of the season, which is much more difficult than the Texans. I think they are in the "play-off" mentality that Texans fans tend to get into after a win. Once they lose this week, though, they should be back to pondering if VY was a solid pick (YES!) and thinking they are losers, too. __________________ "It is what it is."

11-28-2006	#10
kfranco_utexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston Age: 28 Posts: 256 Rep Power: 0	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. Vince Young will be a stud in the NFL. Period. I have no regrets with Mario, he looks like a beast out there. Fortunately, because if not....i would be demanding some choppings. __________________ We have to figure out a way to stop Peyton Manning, that's why we drafted Mario Williams- McNair How bout VY?

11-28-2006	#12
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. It is funny that the 3-4 gives Peyton fits, yet we went away from it. The only 4-3 defense I can think of that ever gives Indy problems is Jacksonville. We just had our first solid draft in five tries. We truly need two more solid drafts to get this ship up from the bottom of the ocean. We really need either a playmaking QB or RB on offense, right now we have neither. Also, we need to figure out how to stop teams from passing at will on us. We have made J.P. "NFL" (see Glanville's definition of "NFL") Losman, Mark "no longer starting" Brunell, and Chad "my arm hurts" Pennington look like Pro Bowlers this year. Heck we beat Buffalo handily if we have a half-decent CB instead of Faggins. __________________ "...the Texans select...Adrian Peterson, RB, University of Oklahoma."

11-28-2006	#13
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. To me that one was just one heck of a fluky game that Young pulled them back from. A penalty on 4th down and ghost whistle, ok. Let me see what he can do back to back. Titan lovers.

11-28-2006	#14
eric138 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 38 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 15	Re: I hate this, but when will we really ever have a chance. Vince Young didn't do anything.. When he can pull off what Peyton Manning did against them buccs in '03 then we can start to think he may be a good one. until then he is just a Vick wanna be.

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