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Old 11-22-2006   #1
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Ladell Betts - He has produced and I think he is a good fit for our system and he keeps his feet moving at all times.
Lance Briggs or Adalius Thomas - Briggs is the bigger name but Thomas is the better talent IMO.
Nate Clements or Asante Samuel - You pick, I call it a dead heat
Dwight Freeney or Jared Allen - Allen is a RFA and Freeny is likely to be resigned, but why can't I dream?


There are no OL, WR/TE worth mentioning. The FA class is thin overall so expect to overpay for anyone mentioned above. OL must be drafted as no top tier OL is allowed to sign elsewhere. The closest this year is Starks and he probally won't hit the market, but I don't consider him top tier.
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Default Re: YoungTexanFan's FA targets:

I'd give Asante Samuel the tiebreaker over Nate Clements right now since they are equal in my book. The reason for the tiebreaker is that Asante has been playing for a winning organization his whole career and has learned how to finish off games. Asante via winning swagger!!!

What do you think of Cato June at WLB?
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Nate Clements finished off the game sunday
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#1 on my FA shopping list is Chicago OLB Briggs, #55/25/6'1"/240 and almost as good as Urlacher. Put him outside DeMeco, draft one more good OLB high in '07 and we have gone from having one of the worst defensive front 7 to one of the best IMO.

#2 but just a bit behind #1 is NE Samuel, #22/25/5'10"/185 and plays a lot like Drob. Paired with Drob, and Faggins as the 3rd CB and we are a FS upgrade away from being there with the backfield as well.

#3 much lower down on my list than the above two...SD RB Turner, #33/24/5'10"/237 Kubiak's protype RB with a lot of tread left on his wheels after backing up LT. I doubt we have the cap space to get this one though as he is probably going to cost someone a bunch to sign and I'll bet Kubes thinks we should use FA money elsewhere (like OLB, CB)
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neither samuel, briggs, thomas are likely to be FA's come march
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I'd give Asante Samuel the tiebreaker over Nate Clements right now since they are equal in my book. The reason for the tiebreaker is that Asante has been playing for a winning organization his whole career and has learned how to finish off games. Asante via winning swagger!!!

What do you think of Cato June at WLB?
I give Clements the edge actually because he has been to the pro-bowl and is more experienced but still in his prime. He is bigger and more physical. He is also an UFA who wants out.

I thought about listing June, but he just doesn't excite me. I really don't believe he could be a player we plus in to build around. I feel he is more of a last piece when there are other great players around him. I don't think he would make the kind of impact worth the money he'll ask.
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neither samuel, briggs, thomas are likely to be FA's come march
Actually, Samuels and Briggs are likely to become FA's.

NE does not want to shell out the money to resign Samuels and many major sports outlets are reporting the same thing.

Briggs is almost garentueed out of Chicago. Chicago is going to be struggling to resign all their young defensive talent very soon. Briggs is expendable because he is overhyped. He will want more than Chicago will pay. He will be a FA.
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Default Re: YoungTexanFan's FA targets:

I'm also pretty sure John Lynch is a RFA or UFA. He'd be a heck of a pick up for our shotty secondary. I'd say he'd be the top FA I'd go after. You know there wouldn't be any last minute bombs over the middle of the field for a TD if Lynch was patroling our backfield. Going into our offseason, secondary is my 1st concern, then our LB's.
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Lynch is too old, and I'm not sure why he would want to come here anyway. I get my RB in the draft. You can find good ones there, and we don't need to overpay. I would take Clements over Samuel, but either is a major, major upgrade. I would take Briggs over Thomas by a hair, but again, either is a major upgrade. Remember on any of these big names that it's a two way street. They have to want to be here.
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Lynch is too old, and I'm not sure why he would want to come here anyway. I get my RB in the draft. You can find good ones there, and we don't need to overpay. I would take Clements over Samuel, but either is a major, major upgrade. I would take Briggs over Thomas by a hair, but again, either is a major upgrade. Remember on any of these big names that it's a two way street. They have to want to be here.
With most of these players looking for their second team, I expect them to care more about money than team. They want to go to a team that will highlight them in the defense as well as pay them handsomly. That seems like us.
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Lynch is too old, and I'm not sure why he would want to come here anyway. I get my RB in the draft. You can find good ones there, and we don't need to overpay. I would take Clements over Samuel, but either is a major, major upgrade. I would take Briggs over Thomas by a hair, but again, either is a major upgrade. Remember on any of these big names that it's a two way street. They have to want to be here.
Or we'll overpay for them to be here. See Greenwood, Weaver, etc.
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I'm also pretty sure John Lynch is a RFA or UFA. He'd be a heck of a pick up for our shotty secondary. I'd say he'd be the top FA I'd go after. You know there wouldn't be any last minute bombs over the middle of the field for a TD if Lynch was patroling our backfield. Going into our offseason, secondary is my 1st concern, then our LB's.
Lynch has never been a ball hawk or cover guy. He is a hard hitting SS, but we have two of those starting right now. Lynch is also really old and has not been playing well. He's on my stay away list.
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Or we'll overpay for them to be here. See Greenwood, Weaver, etc.
Todd Wade as well...

However, those were mediocere talents at best.

I don't mind overpaying a little for someone like Clements or Freeny.
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Todd Wade as well...

However, those were mediocere talents at best.

I don't mind overpaying a little for someone like Clements or Freeny.
Well, if we overpaid for mediocre talents, what do you think we're going to have to pay for real talent?

BTW, I like Weaver and don't include him as a mediocre talent.
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Or we'll overpay for them to be here. See Greenwood, Weaver, etc.
Uhh...Weaver actually produces. He's our best lineman.
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Uhh...Weaver actually produces. He's our best lineman.
See above post.

I don't include him as a mediocre talent. I assume you were posting at the same time I did. lol
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houston will have to overpay every FA for the next couple years, unless they are a home town guy, like Michael Lewis, now that would be a good pick up for the texans


i thought that lewis and dawkins were both FA after this season, or is it next season?
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Well, if we overpaid for mediocre talents, what do you think we're going to have to pay for real talent?

BTW, I like Weaver and don't include him as a mediocre talent.
We will have to overpay by the same amount as we did for mediocre talent.

I like Weaver too and wasn't trying to include him in mediocre. He is good and solid.
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fill needs via FA, build foundation through the draft-

the Texans cannot afford to overpay anymore for FA help because of all the high draft picks accumulated that will need to be resigned (Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans & franchise QB). Kubiaks staff has done a nice job with all the injurys to find players off the scrape heap for next to nothing. these players (Ephraim Salaam, Thomas Johnson, Anthony Maddox) have done an outstanding job filling in but look for these positions to be upgraded via the draft. only CB & FS positions would I consider overpaying FA.
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