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Old 11-14-2006   #1
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Receiver Jerome Mathis , who made the Pro Bowl in his rookie season as the AFC kick returner, will practice for the first time Wednesday.

Mathis, who is one of the fastest players in the NFL, underwent foot surgery in the offseason. He can practice for two weeks before the team

has to put him on the active roster or place him on injured reserve
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Well, we definetly have the roster space for him. We could definetly use a spark plug on special teams as well.
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I hope he can play soon that dude is BAD**** he can run I got a chance to see him run a kickoff back for a touchdown live and that was awsome!!!
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I hope he can play soon that dude is BAD**** he can run I got a chance to see him run a kickoff back for a touchdown live and that was awsome!!!
Yeah, we did to. It was a game last year against Indy, IIRC. I have a picture that I took of the jumbo-tron that shows his name and the yardage of the kickoff return. I don't see him coming back to play this year though....just a gut feeling.
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Yeah, we did to. It was a game last year against Indy, IIRC. I have a picture that I took of the jumbo-tron that shows his name and the yardage of the kickoff return. I don't see him coming back to play this year though....just a gut feeling.
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A speedster without wheels. Unlike rothlisberger, this guy is JUST a kick returner. I dont want to sound cold, but we shoulda cut the guy a long time ago.

Obviously Kubes likes him... hope he works out.
Huh?

He is inexpensive. And he is extraordinarily fast when healthy. He was the only thing worth watching in 2005. It is not easy to do the stuff he did last year.

ST coach had been looking for his returner with speed and got him.

Kubiak said before the season that he wanted him to work on his wide receiver skills, that he would be helpful in being another weapon on offense.
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Unlike rothlisberger, this guy is JUST a kick returner. I dont want to sound cold, but we shoulda cut the guy a long time ago.
Why in the world would you cut a very cheap as in league minimum pro-bowl player? As for JUST being a kick returner--maybe, maybe not. I'd like to see a staff who actually has players improve under their watch take a stab at teaching him the WR position rather than folks who kept thinking Bradford was a peachy option to keep trotting out on the field.
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He also placed himself ahead of the team. SELFISH! For a while there he was the only thing working out for the Texans and he just have to be an idoit with his bike.

You cant twist this! HE BROKE HIS DAMN FOOT CAUSE HE CRASHED HIS CYCLE! Pro bowl injury my *****! I dint see him limping after the probowl.
So I guess you dont have any hobbies or interest out side of your work.
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He also placed himself ahead of the team. SELFISH! For a while there he was the only thing working out for the Texans and he just have to be an idoit with his bike.

You cant twist this! HE BROKE HIS DAMN FOOT CAUSE HE CRASHED HIS CYCLE! Pro bowl injury my *****! I dint see him limping after the probowl.
Even though I agree that he was foolish for riding on the cycle, I can't help but disagree. He was a late round pick and he required a minimal contract. As of right now there is no reason to let him go.

Besides.... if we let Mathis go, it would make my screen name kindof obsolete.

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No excuse for riding a motorcycle, or for his behavior/attitude.

That being said.. im all for bringing him back and see if he can overcome his past mistakes.
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He also placed himself ahead of the team. SELFISH! For a while there he was the only thing working out for the Texans and he just have to be an idoit with his bike.

You cant twist this! HE BROKE HIS DAMN FOOT CAUSE HE CRASHED HIS CYCLE! Pro bowl injury my *****! I dint see him limping after the probowl.
Then the Steelers should have cut Roethlisberger and the Browns should have cut Winslow. Cmon.
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its a very small lie.. and one that his team is backing up.. which leads me to believe that they are just trying to spare him and the team some negative press.

That is assuming that you are correct and it was an injury from the Motorcycle accident.
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its a very small lie.. and one that his team is backing up.. which leads me to believe that they are just trying to spare him and the team some negative press.

That is assuming that you are correct and it was an injury from the Motorcycle accident.
That's correct. Nobody truely knows how the injury occured. People making assumptions on his personality and behavior without substantial proof, leads to rumors.

I'm all for him coming back.
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well it is pretty much a fact that Mathis has been difficult to coach, and feels that he doesnt need to learn any more about how to be a pro WR.

His attitude isnt (or wasnt) where it needs to be.
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its a very small lie.. and one that his team is backing up.. which leads me to believe that they are just trying to spare him and the team some negative press.

That is assuming that you are correct and it was an injury from the Motorcycle accident.
Very well said Grid...nice post! I certainly don't "know" that he hurt himself in the pro bowl but he did have a return that I remember seeing where he could have hurt his foot because that is where he took the hit that brought him down (inside the 15 or 10 yard line btw as I remember).
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I want to see Mathis worked in as a WR as well.

Hope he makes it back this year.

FYI and FWIW I had heard that the motorcycle wreck did cause the foot issue that has kept him out thus far. Supposedly this injury was incurred at the Pro Bowl last year.
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Everyone should heed the advice of our member Gary Kubiak and never use an unfortunate mistake as a coaching opportunity. We all know, no matter what business we are in, that it is easy to find talent and even more cost effective to fire someone and retrain a replacement.
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well it is pretty much a fact that Mathis has been difficult to coach, and feels that he doesnt need to learn any more about how to be a pro WR.

His attitude isnt (or wasnt) where it needs to be.
You know this how? Not being rude here, just curious. If it's your opinion, then so be it. I would just like to know if there is an instance where this was proven that he was difficult to coach.
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Maybe if he admits he was a dumbass and he broke his foot from the cycle accident, then maybe I would have forgiven him.

He is pretending that this injury happened in the probowl which is a dirty LIE!
I don't know whether he is a liar or not, but you sir, are engaged in rank fabrication, speculation and pullage of things out of your rear end.

I've pointed this out to you in the past, but here is a blog entry I did about the injury:

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In that entry, I put a medical article about the condition he had surgery for. You can read it here.

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Studies8-10 in the 1980s projected a navicular fracture incidence of 0.7 to 2.4 percent of all stress fractures. Recent studies1,11,12 reveal an incidence of 14 to 35 percent of all stress fractures. A study11 of elite-level athletes showed that track athletes accounted for 59 percent of all tarsal navicular stress fractures.
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Commonly occurring in track and field athletes (Table 1),1,5,7,10,13,17,18,21-23 navicular stress fractures present as vague, aching pain in the dorsal midfoot that may radiate along the medial arch. The pain typically increases with activity such as running and jumping. With continued participation, the pain occurs sooner during activity and lasts longer into post-activity rest periods.1,5,17,24 Symptoms are rarely bilateral.

Various factors contribute to the common delay in diagnosis of navicular stress fractures. Often, athletes can continue activity until pain increases too much by altering their gait and decreasing use of the forefoot.18 Pain also resolves rapidly with rest, making it possible for athletes to resume participation after a week of respite from activity.
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In sum, that type of foot fracture is common in elite athletes, especially track athletes, is difficult to diagnose, and doesn't really show itself unless you are engaged in running or jumping.

It's typically an overuse type of injury, not a traumatic injury.

So, yeah, Jerome Mathis made a mistake riding a motorcycle and crashing. But to claim that his foot got broken because of it, is just making stuff up, flies in the face of all public information provided about the injury, and isn't particularly consistent with the type of injury he has.
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Could it be he had a small fracture in his foot and then when he crashed his cycle he roke it completely? That would still mean the foot injury happened on the fileld for the most part. It would also mean you were wrong about calling him a liar. If you call him a liar you are also calling anyone who defends him a liar as well.
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