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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4327070.html

kubiak's take on the 'two minute drill'....kinda sad, IMO...
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kubiak's take on the 'two minute drill'....kinda sad, IMO...
Kinda sad?? Well, IMO ... I thought his explanations were pretty reasonable, considering how the team responds in the 2nd half.

I guess it's pretty easy to tell him to "grow a pair", and then easily crucify him when it doesn't turn out right.
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yes it's sad....
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he is basically stating that our offense isn't very good and he can't trust it right now. So much for passer rating being a stat worth anything.
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Not sure why anyone would crucify him for doing what 31 other head coaches would do in the same situation, but whatever floats your boat.
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kubiak's take on the 'two minute drill'....kinda sad, IMO...
Not really. It makes perfect sense if you understand the game.
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Scary stuff, but I am aghast that Kubiak only got this during the season and could not see it in his film work before he took the job. We cannot afford to sign players that cannot play NFL football.

Success in the second half of the season is dependent upon the defense's development.
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considering where this offense has been the last few years, we seem light years ahead (not where we need to be,but )

2002 was the "two minute" drill for 4 quarters
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Not sure why anyone would crucify him for doing what 31 other head coaches would do in the same situation, but whatever floats your boat.
I think most other head coaches would try and get some points on the board if there's still 2 minutes left on the clock before halftime. His explanations are reasonable but I still don't agree with him. At least try throwing the ball down field some.
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So, we want to go into the half on a high note induced-not by us scoring-but by not letting the opposition score? OK. What's our benefit to start the 2ND half by not 'upsetting' fragile minds? Scoring points? Us, no. Them, yes.

Actually, what is Kubiak's choice/outlook with players that are not 'tough' mentally? IMO, it depends on whether he thinks those players are here for the 'long haul.' My point here is why 'coddle' down the offense for players he does not intend to keep? Saying this, I'm sure we're talking about 'permanent' players.

JMO, but I'm missing something here. We are talking about highly skilled/trained athletes that are paid large sums of money to do their jobs on this team and Kubiak feels the need to build his team around 'not hurting their feelings.' Does this happen in the 'real' world?

Finally, how will he know when it's OK to try to win without upsetting a player? This 'thinking' is all new to me, so I'd appreciate it if someone can explain it to me---too, is this really common in the NFL?...thanks
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Not really. It makes perfect sense if you understand the game.

How does it make perfect sense?
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There is no explanation. It depends on your guts and when it comes to the 2 minute we don't have any.

I really like most of the things kubiak is bringing us, but this isn't one of them.



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Well, we can't blame Corey Bradford anymore. It is a little upsetting to hear that Carr is definitely our guy, our linemen are not quite as bad at pass blocking anymore, we have good receivers on the field, but we can't trust (David) the team to run two minute drills. I sure hope there really is going to be a time when he can do that.
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How does it make perfect sense?
Football is a strategy game....that's why (the same reason teams punt too). If you don't trust your QB, you shouldn't put him out there to screw up the entire game for the others. When Kubiak said that Carr still had a long way to go, I don't think he was joking with us.
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Defense in the 2 minute drill has been pretty bad too. They fall into the prevent and get picked apart. Overall, team has been awful in those situations.
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So, we want to go into the half on a high note induced-not by us scoring-but by not letting the opposition score? OK. What's our benefit to start the 2ND half by not 'upsetting' fragile minds? Scoring points? Us, no. Them, yes.

Actually, what is Kubiak's choice/outlook with players that are not 'tough' mentally? IMO, it depends on whether he thinks those players are here for the 'long haul.' My point here is why 'coddle' down the offense for players he does not intend to keep? Saying this, I'm sure we're talking about 'permanent' players.

JMO, but I'm missing something here. We are talking about highly skilled/trained athletes that are paid large sums of money to do their jobs on this team and Kubiak feels the need to build his team around 'not hurting their feelings.' Does this happen in the 'real' world?

Finally, how will he know when it's OK to try to win without upsetting a player? This 'thinking' is all new to me, so I'd appreciate it if someone can explain it to me---too, is this really common in the NFL?...thanks
I think your making it more complicated than it is. How much a player gets paid is not going have any effect on how upbeat or dejected he gets during the course of a game. The player might be a professional, but he is human, not a machine.

This is a losing football team, with reputation of losing. He's just trying to do his best to keep his team from getting a "here we go again" idea planted in their minds during halftime. I mean, this team does not do very well starting out in the 3rd quarter, so again, I think his explanations are not unreasonable.
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I think most other head coaches would try and get some points on the board if there's still 2 minutes left on the clock before halftime. His explanations are reasonable but I still don't agree with him. At least try throwing the ball down field some.

From what I gathered out of the article, what Kubiak meant in saying he wanted the offense to do something before he let them open up the fast-paced plays is that he wanted them to do something on that drive in order to show they wouldn't be prone to errors in those situations. In the Giants game, while I didn't like how we ended the first half, I do understand his mindset. We had held our own in the first half and and the Giants have the ability to score fast if need-be, so Kubiak didn't want them to get that opporunity. He still should have gone for it, though.

If what I gathered is correct, it makes sense to me: Make your guys earn their chances, and weed out the guys who don't want to fight hard enough. If you aren't playing hard within 2 minutes of a half, with a score of 7-3, against a team who was supposed to walk all over you, you don't deserve to play
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We are getting better. This isnt Xbox Madden. If you have a banged up talentless OL out on the field and a QB that has turned the ball over 60 times in 60something games then it might be a good idea to control the clock and keep the other team from running their 2 min drill...Especially if we get the ball back to start the 3rd quarter.

Half of you would love to see a 3 and out throwing down the field using only 20 seconds off the clock...Or worse, turning the ball over.

This team will get better and you'll get your 2 min drill......60 minutes in a game and we are getting mad about 4 minutes.
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Seemingly Kubiak is at a crossroads, does he:
1 - Get more weapons for Carr
2 - Show continued patience for a 4.5 year vet that makes 7.2 million dollars
3 - Get the Texans an NFL QB who can run a two minute drill.
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he is basically stating that our offense isn't very good and he can't trust it right now. So much for passer rating being a stat worth anything.
He was actually saying that our defense hasn't responded to late 1st half drives:
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After watching his defense open the season by surrendering 17 points combined in the final seconds of the first half to Philadelphia, Indianapolis and Washington, Kubiak said he decided his team needs to take something positive into the locker room.

So when the Texans took the ball with 1:54 left in the half against the Dolphins on Oct. 1, they all but took a knee three times in hopes of getting to the locker room without an opponent posting a late score.
He may not trust the offense or the defense, but Kubiak needs to get over it or he'll turn into Dom Capers. If the coach won't show confidence in the players, how are the players going to develop confidence?
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