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On tonights show they discussed whom is having the better season at this point and while both agreed it was Mario. They even admitted they would never have thought this at the beginning of the season.
But here's the catch. They still stated they would take Bush over Mario and that people need to realize that even though Bush isn't setting the world on fire and his stats are pretty bad. Then the statements of all statements. Something to the fact that we still need to understand that while Bush isn't doing much he is a decoy of sorts and defeneses and coordinators have to plan to deal with him so this is helping the Saints win !!!!Sheesh they just don't want to eat crow. Oh, also he is supposed to be a monster bloker in the backfield for Duece and Brees. B |
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They will pimp Reggie until his dying day.
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spinning is just an artform
This would have been a legit situation.. we draft Bush.. N.O. took Mario. I wonder what would be the spin. Bush :with the Texans has no talent around him they are still with 2 wins.? mario at N.O.? would they say Brees, Colston(m/s) and Payton are the real reason they are winning? I honestly dont' think Mario would have gotten any praise from any team that drafted him.. Bush was the golden child. Thing is .. isn't Lundry having a better season? I know the kids in Indy and N.E. are having a better season than Bush
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He probably is a decoy and defenses probably do have to be aware of him because of the talent he has, but the fact is that Reggie Bush is being outplayed by Mario Williams at this point. Reggie wasn't drafted to be a decoy. He was drafted to be a playmaker, and he's not making plays.
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Just wait a few more weeks for Kornheiser & Wilbon on PTI.
They usually admit when they are wrong about someone. They just dont wanna jump on the Mario bandwagon until they are absolutely sure that Bush will do nothing this year. Remember that there are 8 games left this year. |
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FYI - defenses have to also account for Deuce, Horn, and Colston as well as every other player on offense with the exception of linemen.
As far as him being a decoy ..... I guess you could say that since he's going to draw all of the criticism away from the Texans and Mario if he keeps producing like he is. |
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also I think it would help if Weaver (or whoever) had about 5 sacks also .. they could throw in Williams is the "Decoy"(seems to be the word of the season for some)
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I never wanted Reggie Bush, for three reasons.
1)I think we needed to get rid of all the BushBowl fans 2)We're going to be DenverSouth 3)I like DD. Reggie is not having a very good rookie season. but neither did guys like Ricky Williams, RonDayne, and LarryJohnson. Ricky & LJ have lived up to their expectations..... with the exception of Ricky's off field activities...... there is no reason to believe that Reggie won't. I believe that Mario was the best pick for us. I believe alot of these "experts" owe us a big apology. But it would be stupid to call Reggie out this early in his career. |
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An expensive decoy for sure!
Thank God we did not drafthim. |
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The fact that noone else on our team has 4 sacks, IMHO is even more of a testament to what Mario means to this team. just imagine if he was on a line with decent talent...... Like Anderson, Kiwanuka, Hali, or Lawson.
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So THAT'S why Ron Dayne's stats are so unimpressive! He's a DECOY! Of course! Yeah, that's it!
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Bush IS a decoy and he DOES force defenses to account for him. Mario does the same thing though to offenses, so I dont think that is a good excuse to take Bush over Williams.
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The ONLY reason you would take Bush over Williams is if didnt have any other pressing needs for your 1st round draft pick and you wanted to sell a bunch of jerseys & sell out your home games for the first time ever.
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No, you can only be a 'decoy' if you are terrible and need a desperate excuse.
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I think that it is ironic and also shows the inexact nature of the draft that the best offensive rookie on the Saints is Marques Colston even though they drafted Bush second overall and the most compelling defensive rookie on the Texans this season is DeMeco Ryans and not Mario Williams.
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for a running back to qualify as the #1 overall, he's got to run between the tackles, and he has to have a history of carrying the ball 20+ times a game. Period. You will not find a running back ever taken in the top 5 that did not fit that description. Now if Reggie was a wideReciever, it would make sense to take him with the #1 overall........ but he was not the best reciever in the draft. the only thing that made Reggie a #1 pick was ESPN's hype machine, and the fact that they thought we had a GM dumb enough to take Reggie with the #1 overall. LT was not taken #1 overall. Shaun Alexander, not taken with the #1 overall, Emmit...... not a #1 overall back, RonDayne, nope, Ricky Williams.... no, CedricBenson...... nope. Reggie Bush was never, and shouldn't have ever been a #1 overall prospect. |
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Now the irony about Bush and Colston..Nevermind, words just won't do it justice.
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