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HOUSTON VS NYG PREVIEW
By Brad Lorkovic (LORK 88)


So last week couldn’t have gone any worse for us. We resumed many things: our losing ways, our QB controversy, and most importantly our negativity. How could it get any worse? Well, we do play the team in 1st place in the NFC East NY Giants this week. They’re balanced, disciplined, and make plays. However, Houston has nothing to lose in this game so to speak. Also, the Giants have the undefeated Chicago Bears next week and may overlook us this week. It all comes down to us playing like we can. After that it’s the question of which Giants team shows up: the one that overlooks us because our record or the one that takes every game seriously?

Houston’s Running Game vs. New York’s Run D: Again like always, we’ve got to be able to run the ball. Lundy has had 2 solid weeks and is living up to our demands so far. Dayne or Gado have to be able to do something coming off the bench as the spell back for Lundy however. This will be the week we need it most because the Giants have shut down rushers like Dallas. Their only bad performance so far has been against the best rushing team in the NFL, the Atlanta Falcons, where Dunn rushed for 146 carries. Like any good rushing defense, it all starts up front for NYG where they have solid DTs and the best group of DEs in the NFL. They also have Antonio Pierce who is a ball hawk and is always around the ball. It also doesn’t hurt that both their Safeties are solid tacklers. The key for us will be to hit the holes we can create hard and fast. Like stated earlier, Atlanta was able to get some good runs off, and they run the Zone Blocking Scheme like we do (all be it just a bit better). Because of the style of blocking we have, we need to not allow penetration to seep in, and we need to get what we can running forward.

Houston’s Passing Game vs. New York’s Pass D:
This has been our best form of offense week in and week out, including last week and lucky for us is NY’s only weakness. While they’ve picked off 9 passes total (2 by their DT Fred Robbins which is tied for the team lead oddly enough), they still give up over 210 yards in the air a game. Sam Madison is a solid CB, but aging fast for them and is questionable for them. Webster is their #1 CB so far and has done pretty good, but still shows his youth every now and then and is susceptible against top tier WRs. Their Safeties fall into the good but not great category. Will Demps is their FS and has been great some weeks, and questionable others. He’s a great tackler, but struggles in pass coverage. Their SS is Gibril Wilson who doesn’t get enough credit. He’s 2nd on the team in tackles (some say he hits like a LB) and isn’t a liability in coverage. While I think we can do great against their pass D, the biggest problem will be our pass protection which looked like we were back in 2005 last week. Osi Umenyiora will be out this week most likely, but Michael Strahan is still one of the best DEs in the league, and Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka aren’t to be taken likely as their quick rushers. This will be our biggest problem as their one of the best blitzing teams in the league.

New York’s Rushing Game vs. Houston’s Run D: Part 1 of what is one of the most balanced offenses in the NFL. NYG features what most like to call a thunder and lightning backfield, or in simple terms a 2 RB system where 1 RB is the physical bruiser and the other is the speed, flash type. The problem for us is that their thunder is built like a DE and their lightning is one of the best in the NFL. Tiki Barber is the lightning who can do so much with the ball. His favorite running plays are the tosses outside where he gets to be patient, pick his hole, and take off like a track star. Jacobs on the other hand loves getting runs Off Tackle where he can take it up the middle and bounce it outside when he gets past the 2nd level. For us, I think this will be Mario’s biggest test to date. He’s played the run very well lately and has shown speed which will be imperative this week. Our DTs are also going to have to play big this week, get penetration, and re-route the RBs any way possible. The biggest potential problem I can see at the other DE spot. Weaver isn’t very fast, and Peek/Babin aren’t strong, so we need to play match ups as well as possible. Any time we think they could try to stretch a run outside; we need our quicker DEs, while Weaver is necessary on the plays with Jacobs up the middle. Match ups will be the name of the game this week in terms of rush defense.

New York’s Passing Game vs. Houston’s Pass D: I won’t beat around the bush; we need Eli to have the passing game forced upon him. So far this year, when Tiki and Jacobs are held to less than 100 yards combined (which has happened twice), Eli has been responsible for 4 INTs and fumbled twice. He’s had big games even when he’s been sacked, but whenever he has doesn’t have the running game to rely on, he’s been spotty. We need to be careful with how we pressure them however, because Eli has an arsenal of weapons. Plaxico is his favorite target and for good reason: he’s 6’5”. Toomer is still proving to be a solid #2 WR opposite and can take advantage of teams giving Burress too much attention. Shockey is still at TE and while he isn’t having the season he had last year in terms of receiving yards, he’s still one of the top receiving TEs out there. However, NYG loves creating mismatches, so Shockey has shined in the red zone with 4 TDs. The last major weapon of Eli’s is Tiki of course who is great on screens and dump passes to the outside where he can create room. The big problem I could see is if we either give Eli too much time, or give him favorable match ups. Quite possibly his favorite thing to do when he gets blitzed with 1 on 1 coverage is to throw a jump ball to Plaxico which is very effective. Tiki on the outside is also something he doesn’t mind doing. Therefore, we need to make sure we are smart with our blitzes and need a big game out of our Safeties.


Position Battle
QB Advantage: NEW YORK
RB Advantage: NEW YORK
WR Advantage: PUSH
TE Advantage: NEW YORK
OL Advantage: NEW YORK
DE Advantage: NEW YORK
DT Advantage: NEW YORK
LB Advantage: NEW YORK
CB Advantage: NEW YORK
S Advantage: NEW YORK
K/P Advantage: PUSH
RET Advantage: HOUSTON

Key Factors To The Game
1) Keep Carr off his back. With Strahan, Osi, Kiwi, hell I’ll save time and just say the entire defense that can blitz, we’ve got to Carr upright and give him time to make good passes. We’ve got good targets, but NYG has one of the best blitzing defenses in the entire NFL. We’ve been better at pass protection, but we’ve got to hold our own against NYG this week. I don’t care if we try running, screens, whatever we’ve got to do; we need to keep them honest as well. We can’t have a repeat of last week where Carr got sacked like it was 2005.

2) Make smart decisions passing. This also ties into factor #1 as well in that Carr can’t make good decisions on his back. Carr needs to make better decisions in terms of throwing the ball. Last week, he took too much time staring down receivers and forcing throws to AJ, and look what happened on that play. He’s got to do a better job identifying the open WR or checking down to his RBs and TEs. Wali is a more than capable receiver and Daniels is proving to be a great asset on short to intermediate routes.

3) Don’t give up big plays. Like I stated above, Eli loves giving jump balls to Plaxico and its proven successful week after week. With our horrid showing on pass defense, you better believe he’ll try it on us. Secondly, Tiki Barber is a dual home run threat (no, I didn’t make that word up). He can take passes for long gains, and can take runs (particularly stretch plays) down the field with his speed. Lastly, This Giants defense is full of playmakers and you better believe that they can force turnovers and make the most of them. Basically, we need to be smart with the football and not force anything that isn't there.
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Who is gonna cover Shockey?

I wont be able to stand it if he dominates us.

Our LBs are too slow for him. I dont know if our safeties can handle him either.

We will probably have to put a nickel on him on passing downs.
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According to logic the Giants should handle us pretty easily. But sometimes football defies logic and hopefully it'll be this week for us.
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According to logic the Giants should handle us pretty easily. But sometimes football defies logic and hopefully it'll be this week for us.
I think our chance this week lies in the Giants overlooking us because Chicago is next week. Some fans are actually afraid that they'll take this game too lightly and we'll give them a scare. Should be fun to watch, we have nothing to lose.
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BTW, regarding that Falcons game. The stats are skewed due to one 90 yard TD. Not a good thing to give up, but I'd rather give up 90 yards rushing on 1 TD drive, than on 3, by having the other team rush for 30 yards on average in those drives. Oh and Osi probably won't play. (Didn't notice that you said that) Madison may also be out.

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Oh and you guys shouldn't worry about Shockey minus the Falcons game he hasn't done much this year.
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Oh and you guys shouldn't worry about Shockey minus the Falcons game he hasn't done much this year.
Don't worry, if we made Brunell look like Peyton, we can make Shockey look like he used to.
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Don't worry, if we made Brunell look like Peyton, we can make Shockey look like he used to.
What was up with that? How can Brunell set a record against you guys?
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What was up with that? How can Brunell set a record against you guys?
Anybody can complete 23 in a row when they arent getting touched.
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What was up with that? How can Brunell set a record against you guys?

For some reason our defensive coordinator decided not to blitz until the 4th quarter.

We've been kinda scratching our heads over that one. There were a lot of posts asking for his head on a platter after that game.

He looked hesitant to blitz the first 3 games. The first three games (Eagles, Colts, Skins), we were giving up almost 10 yards per pass attempt. Since then, he finally started calling blitzes and the ypa has gone down to less than 6 ypa.

BTW, our great rookie MLB, Demeco Ryans, is still learning how to blitz. He has a bad habit of coming too quickly and missing the sack. Although he's scared the hell out of a few QB's and forced them to step into other people's arms. He's lost 1.5 sacks to Mario where he pressured the QB right into Mario.
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3 things: 1) Also from what I've seen Brunell had screen after screen, so most QBs wouldn't probably get that record since they would attempt a pass beyond 5 yards. 2) Now that I think of it, it seems to me that we're blitzing a lot more since that Seattle game and it's helped us. Plus our D-line is doing a much better job and as well as our secondary. 3) I thought that Ryans was an OLB, from what I read on this board.

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I voted alot. Nothing against our D I like how they are coming along but I am going off last weeks nightmare. I don't think they will play that bad but if our D is on they field for most of the game and for long drives and our O is going three and out or have a turn over after a long drive I feel for our D. I am not that worried about their O no disrespect but they are not the Colts but they are more than capable of putting 40 on us if our o stays on the sideline. I really hope I am proving wrong because this is the first time I would have a smile on my face for being wrong GO TEXANS.

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3) I thought that Ryans was an OLB, from what I read on this board.
Ryans was projected as an OLB, but we had injuries to our projected starting MLBs so Ryans was thrust into the position. Luckily he picked it up very well and is exceeding most people's expectations. He is a monster...just watch on Sunday...he makes plays all over the field.
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They've been sending him straight up the middle.
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2 things: 1) Also from what I've seen Brunell had screen after screen, so most QBs wouldn't probably get that record since they would attempt a pass beyond 5 yards. 2) Now that I think of it, it seems to me that we're blitzing a lot more since that Seattle game and it's helped us. Plus our D-line is doing a much better job and as well as our secondary. 3) I thought that Ryans was an OLB, from what I read on this board.
1. That was also Portis' first game back and he was killing us. We missed a ton of tackles in that game and we were getting no pressure at all on Brunell so he had plenty of time to find his dump off. And then he'd drop it off and we'd miss the tackles and a 2 yard pass on 3rd and 13 would turn into a 15 yard pass and a first down. He ended up averaging 9.7 yards per pass attempt in that game. Portis caught 2 passes for 78 yards (1 of them was a 74 yarder that killed us.) Betts was averaging 7.8 yards per carry and Portis was averaging over 5. It was just a bad, bad game.

2. Yep. Good blitzes at the right times definitely help. But it helps to get to the QB and we haven't been doing enough of that.

3. MLB. He was projected as an OLB and then during training camp, the first roster had him as the 3rd string MLB. Most of us were pretty surprised by that. Then the 2 guys in front of him both got injured and are out for the season so... we got a rook starting at MLB.
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BTW, I like that LORK did his HW. I think that our secondary is definately the weakest part on this team. Madison may be out (though I honestly have no clue about his status, he missed the Bucs game though) and that's painful. Madison is not a young guy anymore, Webster is on the opposite end of the spectrum, he's really young, and McQuarters can be ok but can get burned. I wouldn't say that Wilson and Demps are great cover safeties, more big hitters. It's definately been better than it was early in the year, but they weren't used to playing together, since it was almost brand new.
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Yes it's true. A DT is tied for the lead with 2 INTs on our team! Fred Robbins ROCKS!
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These Giants Fans Rock, if this was a jag fan. he would be saying how we would get owned by them or that their defense is the #1 in the nfl
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Awww thanks. But there's no rivalry here, so it's a bit different. How were the Eagles fans? There are actually a few decent ones so since there's no rivalry I wouldn't be surprised if even they were decent.
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Awww thanks. But there's no rivalry here, so it's a bit different. How were the Eagles fans? There are actually a few decent ones so since there's no rivalry I wouldn't be surprised if even they were decent.

They were mostly pretty good. Since it was the first game of the season and since we had won more than one pre-season game for the first time in our existence, there was a lot more smack before that game.

We've also gotten along pretty well with the Colts fans because... hey... although we have played them close in the past, we've never beaten them. But with the Titans... they used to be the Oilers so that always stirs up weird stuff. And the Jags, well, we actually have a winning record against the Jags. So that's like the one team we can really dump on.

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