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Lots of good stuff in here:

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Especially as it relates to the offensive line and this:

QB Sage Rosenfels

(on what it meant that Coach Kubiak had the confidence to put him in the game) “I think everyone has confidence in all the quarterbacks here. I think the quarterbacks have confidence in everybody else, so I think that’s part of the good team chemistry that we have. I think it starts from the head coach and works it way down to the players.”

(on Coach Kubiak picking a starting QB) “Coach Kubiak has been doing this for a long time, and he knows what’s best for this football team. He played for ten or 12 years and coached for ten, 12 years in this league. He knows. He has a Ph.D. in football.”

(on what coming right back and performing will say about QB David Carr) “Well, David’s a fighter, and he’s been doing it for a while. He’s not a rookie. He’s been doing it for a while and I except he’ll come back and play better this week. Hopefully he’s going to play better this week. It’s a great test for us to go into New York against one of the best football teams in the NFL, and it’s also a great stage. So we have a lot to prove. We think we’re a good football team, but we have to prove it this week. And there’s not a better stage to prove it than against one of the great teams in the league on one of the greatest stages.”

(on whether Coach Kubiak saying Carr would start at New York surprised him) “I’ve been in this league, this is my sixth year. I expect anything. David’s played really well this year, I think, so to me it would have been a surprise if he wasn’t starting. He’s played well; he had a bad game, and that doesn’t lose you your starting job for the year. Like I said, he’s going to bounce back. He’s going to play really good football for us this week and help us win.”
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(on whether Coach Kubiak saying Carr would start at New York surprised him) “I’ve been in this league, this is my sixth year. I expect anything. David’s played really well this year, I think, so to me it would have been a surprise if he wasn’t starting. He’s played well; he had a bad game, and that doesn’t lose you your starting job for the year. Like I said, he’s going to bounce back. He’s going to play really good football for us this week and help us win.”
Does this count as a prediction on the boards, because we're gonna have to bash him next week if he's wrong.
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Lots of good stuff in here:


Especially as it relates to the offensive line...
Great.

Weigert and Salaam are hurt. They don't practice. They are tough and will play if at all possible.


I see Winston says that the Giants don't run complicated blitz schemes. Why should they if they can just run past our aging and injured starters who's best attribute is "they try hard"? Sounds like Winston will have some playing time though - that's a plus.

This could get ugly.
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Does this count as a prediction on the boards, because we're gonna have to bash him next week if he's wrong.
Next week a lot of us will:

1. Bash David Carr
2. Lament Mario Williams alleged lack of progress
3. Whine about Dunta Robinson's pass coverage
4. Cry about [insert offensive lineman]
5. Praise DeMeco Ryans


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Great.

Weigert and Salaam are hurt. They don't practice. They are tough and will play if at all possible.


I see Winston says that the Giants don't run complicated blitz schemes. Why should they if they can just run past our aging and injured starters who's best attribute is "they try hard"? Sounds like Winston will have some playing time though - that's a plus.

This could get ugly.
Yeah, not practicing works well on the road. Oldish hurt guys, a rookie, and a guy who was outta football.

In my old job, I used to have to review people's plans about stuff and tell them if I thought they would work. Some of the plans often had too much of a component of the breaks working just right to think that they would be successful.

Sometimes I would joke that their plans needed one more thing to make them work...

You raise your hands, and put your palms together, and then you pray really really hard that everything works all right.



What do y'all think the odds of these things happening before the end of the year are and what is more likely:

1. Wand being re-signed. (Geez, what happened to make things such that they wouldn't consider him at all, even though he looked pretty good in the preseason. Was he just around to push Spencer?).

or

2. Pitts ending up playing left tackle.

We are only half way through the season. How does Winston go from needing lots of development to maybe playing significant minutes against the future holder of the all time sack record for the Giants?

There is some weird stuff going on with this. I have a hard time seeing our current starting tackles make it through the season.
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Next week a lot of us will:

1. Bash David Carr
2. Lament Mario Williams alleged lack of progress
3. Whine about Dunta Robinson's pass coverage
4. Cry about [insert offensive lineman]
5. Praise DeMeco Ryans


we're predictable.
What? No worshipping at the altar of Chad Stanley?
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Next week a lot of us will:

1. Bash David Carr
2. Lament Mario Williams alleged lack of progress
3. Whine about Dunta Robinson's pass coverage
4. Cry about [insert offensive lineman]
5. Praise DeMeco Ryans


we're predictable.
Yes, but next week we can bash Rosenfels for predicating that Carr would play well.

I actually predicted in preseason that Carr would get benched at some point this year and come back very strong. Well, the hard part of that is still to come.
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Oh, and Chad Stanley is God. Not sure if that ends the debate on the other thread about God's gender status or sexual preference, but anyway, he is God.
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Next week a lot of us will:

1. Bash David Carr
2. Lament Mario Williams alleged lack of progress
3. Whine about Dunta Robinson's pass coverage
4. Cry about [insert offensive lineman]
5. Praise DeMeco Ryans


we're predictable.
how true is this
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“He knows. He has a Ph.D. in football.”

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2. Pitts ending up playing left tackle.

We are only half way through the season. How does Winston go from needing lots of development to maybe playing significant minutes against the future holder of the all time sack record for the Giants?

There is some weird stuff going on with this. I have a hard time seeing our current starting tackles make it through the season.
How many sacks did Dwight Freeney get against us??
How 'bout Phillip Daniels?? How many sacks did he get??
Demarcus Ware?? did he sack David this year?? ChrisCanty?? Marcus Spears??
How many sacks did Salaam give up to JasonTaylor?? I only count 1...

Look we're going to have to define exactly what "one bad game" means. Because Salaam has had one bad game, & I don't know what got into KVB or LaBoy, but they were playing better than any DE we've seen this year, with the exception of JasonTaylor. Yes they got beat a couple of times, but they (weigart & Salaam) owned KVB & Laboy more times than not. Salaam was probably credited with 2 sacks at the most before going into the Tennesse game.

David on the other hand has had at least 2 fumbles in 4 of our 7 games this year. he's turned the ball over in all but two games this season. He looked better against Tennessee than he did against Indy & Washington.

IMHO Salaam has had a bad day, & we should be talking about him, like we are talking about David..... he had a bad day, he'll do better next game, he's a pro, he'll bounce back.......

Or we should be talking about David like we are talking about Salaam...... we need to find a rookie to replace him, someone who won't give the ball to the other team twice a frick'n game.
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Relax TK. There can be more than one player doing badly on a team this abysmal. In fact, it's almost a requirement.
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Point taken, TK, but the QB is supposed to be the leader of the team and therefor held to a higher standard. It comes with the territory.
I don't think I've ever heard the phrase 'Left Tackle Controversy'...
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Point taken, TK, but the QB is supposed to be the leader of the team and therefor held to a higher standard. It comes with the territory.
I don't think I've ever heard the phrase 'Left Tackle Controversy'...
I don't have a problem with it..... & I see more than one bad player on this team.

My problem is the people who don't see that there are more than one bad player on this team, and are holding Salaam to a higher standard that our QB.

Across the board, we want Salaam replaced..........


but David should start next week.

Salaam had one bad game, but we talk as if he has been a revolving door all season.

David can't decide which team he plays on on a weekly basis, but he had "one bad game"??
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We are only half way through the season. How does Winston go from needing lots of development to maybe playing significant minutes against the future holder of the all time sack record for the Giants?

There is some weird stuff going on with this. I have a hard time seeing our current starting tackles make it through the season.
You make a good point about being halfway through the season. At 2-5 we have more games in front of us than behind us. It seems like we've given up on our tackle situation and are just playing out the string. I’d rather see action now rather than throw up our hands and do early planning for next year’s draft and free agency.

Not only is it too early for that, it doesn't help us for next year either. Why continue to play Weigert and Salaam? They don't have a big future with the team, and their play could easily lead to negative effects – mental and physical – on our quarterbacks. Their play doesn't show only in the sack count - people have been getting hits on Carr immediately after he releases the ball all year. Carr has his share of problems, but he has also covered for the o-line better this year than he has in previous seasons with a quicker release. We should be playing young players that can play just as well or better than our veterans in their current physical states.


If Winston does start playing I expect some rough spots. He is raw and will make some mistakes. If he is forced in to action we should try to remember that rather than throw him under the bus like we did the other project LT we had that started a full year before he was “scheduled” to and played adequately.

I think it is time to give Winston some serious PT unless and until he shows he can’t handle it during games. It is past time we look to see what street free agents are available and add one of them to the roster in place of Bedell or one of our redundant fullbacks.

We need to stop accepting this bad play just because people are veterans and trying hard. We need accountability or we continue sending a losing message to the team.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Great thoughts. Play Winston, but let's all understand he's in development and not production mode.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Great thoughts. Play Winston, but let's all understand he's in development and not production mode.
The team is in development.....not production mode....
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I don't have a problem with it..... & I see more than one bad player on this team.

My problem is the people who don't see that there are more than one bad player on this team, and are holding Salaam to a higher standard that our QB.

Across the board, we want Salaam replaced..........


but David should start next week.

Salaam had one bad game, but we talk as if he has been a revolving door all season.

David can't decide which team he plays on on a weekly basis, but he had "one bad game"??

At least as far as my commentary goes, this is where I am coming from (I'm not sure if I am part of "the people who don't see that there are more than one bad player on this team.")

Kubiak said that Wiegert and Salaam gave it their all the last game, but are both very nicked up. We are only half way through the season.

I am hoping it was just a bad game, but given the description of Salaam's physical condition right now, I just have to say I am not optimistic.

And our backups are Winston (a rookie) and Bedell (a guy who thought he would be out of football this season).

To think we can get through the season with this lineup involves a bit of prayer on Texans fans part, unless there is information about this that the team isn't sharing with everyone.

As far as I know David is not hurt, and his backup is competent. Whether Carr ends up as a good quarterback or someone that is given up on like Brian Griese, is something we will get to figure out.

I can see both the positives and the negatives of sitting DC, and I'm cool with what Kubiak decides on this. I have to admit my bias against coaches who play the revolving door quarterback game, but I also completely understand why people's patience with Carr has been stomped on, mutiliated and disfigured.

So my discussion is less a giving up on Salaam comment and more of a geez, how are our tackles going to make it through the season comment, and what the heck is plan B? I like Salaam and Wiegert both, and want them to succeed, but realistically I am not sure that they are going to make it.
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The team is in development.....not production mode....
And that's pretty unfortunate. How many years of development have the Texans been in? Five? I'd love to see the production model.
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