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Old 10-24-2006   #1
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I would like to hear some thoughts about this kid. I have always had the opinion that he was over-hyped because he has that Reggie Bush home run potential.
He doesnt seem to have very good hands for a top tier WR and he doesnt run very good routes. I think if he could transition to CB he would be a monster with his speed, but he obviously doesnt like contact. He is one of those guys that runs out of bounds a yard short of the first down to avoid getting hit
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I would like to hear some thoughts about this kid. I have always had the opinion that he was over-hyped because he has that Reggie Bush home run potential.
He doesnt seem to have very good hands for a top tier WR and he doesnt run very good routes. I think if he could transition to CB he would be a monster with his speed, but he obviously doesnt like contact. He is one of those guys that runs out of bounds a yard short of the first down to avoid getting hit
I think he is a little bit better version of Jerome Mathis...
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He looks really really fast. I've heard ESPN say he is the fastest college football player in the nation. I dont know how they judge that, but it could play into his potential. Mel Kiper said at one point that he could be the first WR drafted.
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Mel Kiper said at one point that he could be the first WR drafted.
I didn't hear that but if someone drafts him over Calvin Johnson....

Id be really....really....really.....really............. ....really.....shocked
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I didn't hear that but if someone drafts him over Calvin Johnson....

Id be really....really....really.....really............. ....really.....shocked
Yeah you know you are the real deal when you dont even get the ball and scouts are still drooling
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Like Troy, we (OSU fans) have watched him grow. He has learned how to catch balls, run North and South, and ESPECIALLY run routes. Watch some OSU games from 2004, you'll see what I mean.

Or watch the Alamo Bowl against OSU, when Troy was suspended and Zwick was hurt, Ginn played QB for a few plays!

He's a Hell of an athlete, and gets a little more refined each year. Not sure where he's best suited in the NFL.

If nothign else, for OSU he draws double teams and leave Gonzales open!
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First of all, I will state that OSU will lose to Michigan at home.

Secondly, I will state that Ginn is a overhyped Mathis. He does the same thing, but since hes on OSU, gets more props.

Ginn is a nice prospect, and a better receiver than Mathis, but what is that really saying? Ginn goes bottom 1/2 of round 1.
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I hope some sucker GM takes Ginn and leaves good players on the board...More for us....
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Ginn is not a bad pick...he is actually a very good wide receiver. He runs his routes nicely and has the agility to give good fakes. Why do you think he gets so open at times? He is a much better route runner than Mathis and has better hands.
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Ginn is not a bad pick...he is actually a very good wide receiver. He runs his routes nicely and has the agility to give good fakes. Why do you think he gets so open at times? He is a much better route runner than Mathis and has better hands.
the only reason he gets open is because he is so fast. I have not been impressed by his route running
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. He runs his routes nicely and has the agility to ...
I question his Agility...
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He looks really really fast. I've heard ESPN say he is the fastest college football player in the nation. I dont know how they judge that, but it could play into his potential. Mel Kiper said at one point that he could be the first WR drafted.
He will be. I will not be surprised when he is in the top 5 overall either....

Calvin who?
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I question his Agility...
I'd say he was about as agile as anyone in the NCAA.

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I have not been impressed by his route running
He is more good with head fakes and moves at this point. His route running is improving. The guy is alot like a Santana Moss or a Coles.

The guy would make a nasty slot matchup.
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I'd say he was about as agile as anyone in the NCAA.



He is more good with head fakes and moves at this point. His route running is improving. The guy is alot like a Santana Moss or a Coles.
head fakes dont work in the NFL unless Phillip Buchanon is covering you
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the only reason he gets open is because he is so fast. I have not been impressed by his route running
IMO even the best NFL bound WRs from the NCAA have limited route running abilities.... it is something that can be worked on in the NFL. As for raw speed.... you can't TEACH that. Same with agility. To me Ginn has everything he needs.

I believe the same thing about Mathis. I wish he would get healthy....
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head fakes dont work in the NFL unless Phillip Buchanon is covering you
When you combine it with a lightning fast step to the inside, and then a lightning fast move to the outside...they work.
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you can't TEACH that. Same with agility. To me Ginn has everything he needs.

I believe the same thing about Mathis. I wish he would get healthy....
Now i know you don't know what agility is....

If you think Mathis has good agility you are sadly mistaken...
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Now i know you don't know what agility is....

If you think Mathis has good agility you are sadly mistaken...
Agility is measured by the 3-cone drill...so we will see how Ted Ginn does in this drill....if he runs it...my guess is that he would place in the top 5 of the combine.
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Agility is measured by the 3-cone drill...so we will see how Ted Ginn does in this drill....if he runs it...my guess is that he would place in the top 5 of the combine.
I don't need a 3 cone drill to tell whether someone has agility or not....

you can watch the game and see how a player cuts, and jukes....

From what i've seen out of Ginn he is just like Jerome Mathis....They can run straight ahead really fast, but when it comes making a move they aren't really all that good...Ginn is probably a little better than Mathis at that but that is the reason Mathis can return kicks well, but isn't that good at punt returns...
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I don't need a 3 cone drill to tell whether someone has agility or not....

you can watch the game and see how a player cuts, and jukes....

From what i've seen out of Ginn he is just like Jerome Mathis....They can run straight ahead really fast, but when it comes making a move they aren't really all that good...Ginn is probably a little better than Mathis at that but that is the reason Mathis can return kicks well, but isn't that good at punt returns...
Oh ya of course, I agree with you, you dont NEEd a 3 cone drill. But it helps in determining how one players agility is compared to a group of agile guys or maybe even one other guy.

Ginn seems to have plenty of "making a move" at high speeds. (agility). Take a look at this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg. I think you may have this idea because of how fast he moves. His agility is very fluid....he doesn't jolt and jerk one way, much like Reggie Bush did, he changes direction very fluidly.

He may not have the most agility out of anyone in the NCAA, but he has enough of it to say he is agile.
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