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Texans Front Row Crew · 10-23-2006

Rookie Tight end this year. A while back, I posted some stats for the NFL rookies to see how the did when compaired to each other.

But I don't think i included tight-ends. And now with a quick look at NFL.com, I see Owen Daniels ahead of all his peers. AND HE WAS DRAFTED 98TH.

Good for you Daniels, keep up the good work- and I'm thankful we have you on our TEAM!!

O. Daniels 9 catches, 84 yards, 3 TDs, picked 98th
J. Klopfenstein 7 catches, 118 yards, 1 TD, picked 46th
V. Davis 5 catches, 37 yards, 1 TD, picked 6th
L. Pope 4 catches, 50 yards, 0 TD, picked 72nd
M. Lewis 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 28th
D. Thomas 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 86th
A. Fasano 3 catches, 39 yards, 0 TD, picked 53
T. Scheffler 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD, picked 61

Most of these TE were highly rated (V. Davis and Pope) and, I know we have to play the rest of the season, but It's nice to see our rookies doing better that their peers.

Glacier · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans Front Row Crew

Rookie Tight end this year. I while back I post some stats for the rookies to see how the did when compaired to each other.

But I don't think i included tight-ends. And now with a quick look at NFL.com, I see Owen Daniels ahead of all his peers. AND HE WAS DRAFTED 98TH.

Good for you Daniels, keep up the good work- and I'm thankful we have you on our TEAM!!

O. Daniels 9 catches, 84 yards, 3 TDs, picked 98th
J. Klopfenstein 7 catches, 118 yards, 1 TD, picked 46th
V. Davis 5 catches, 37 yards, 1 TD, picked 6th
L. Pope 4 catches, 50 yards, 0 TD, picked 72nd
M. Lewis 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 28th
D. Thomas 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 86th
A. Fasano 3 catches, 39 yards, 0 TD, picked 53
T. Scheffler 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD, picked 61

Most of these TE were highly rated (V. Davis and Pope) and, I know we have to play the rest of the season, but It's nice to see our rookies doing better that their peers.

V Davis has been hurt. That guy is a beast. Pope...I actually liked his size quite a bit.

Fasano is being used as an H-Back to block more than as a pass catcher.

This offense that Kubiak runs does seem to be pretty good for tight ends. Shannon Sharpe comes to mind....

JEB2ATX · 10-23-2006

I agree V. Davis has been hurt but that still can't count against Owen Daniels and his tremendous ability to block and catch the ball effectively in every game.

V. Davis would've got my vote but you can't count that against Owen. He has stayed healthy. To not be a first rounder he is great!!!

**Kaiser Toro** · 10-23-2006

Daniels has turned out to be a quality pick to date, hopefully he will scale accordingly. The fact that his HC, OC and/or QB look to him in the red zone, and he makes the plays, tells me everything as he performs his pass catching duties as a TE.

**HOU-TEX** · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans Front Row Crew

Rookie Tight end this year. A while back, I posted some stats for the NFL rookies to see how the did when compaired to each other.

But I don't think i included tight-ends. And now with a quick look at NFL.com, I see Owen Daniels ahead of all his peers. AND HE WAS DRAFTED 98TH.

Good for you Daniels, keep up the good work- and I'm thankful we have you on our TEAM!!

O. Daniels 9 catches, 84 yards, 3 TDs, picked 98th
J. Klopfenstein 7 catches, 118 yards, 1 TD, picked 46th
V. Davis 5 catches, 37 yards, 1 TD, picked 6th
L. Pope 4 catches, 50 yards, 0 TD, picked 72nd
M. Lewis 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 28th
D. Thomas 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 86th
A. Fasano 3 catches, 39 yards, 0 TD, picked 53
T. Scheffler 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD, picked 61

Most of these TE were highly rated (V. Davis and Pope) and, I know we have to play the rest of the season, but It's nice to see our rookies doing better that their peers.

He was a very, very nice pick for us. I love his ability to get open. A little more experience blocking and I think we'll have one of the leagues best at the position.

Texans Front Row Crew · 10-23-2006

I didn't know about Fasano, ( he is still listed as a TE on NFL.com) and just a note: I thought M. Colston (NO) was a TE converted to WR, that seems to be working well. I'll look for any other converted to TEs and update.

eric138 · 10-23-2006

if he would have ran the right route when they were in the south end zone he would have had another TD added on that list. That was a beautiful play that turned into nothing. The boy is a bad mofo in my book.

tburdette · 10-23-2006

I remember how mad I was when we picked Daniels. I really wanted Ko Simpson but I guess thats why I am here and not on the sidelines. Good pick Kubiak and Co.

TheOgre · 10-23-2006

Ironically, Daniels was a Casserly pick. He pushed hard for him and sold Kubiak on the pick.

**Double Barrel** · 10-23-2006

That was a beautiful TD play yesterday with Daniels. I can't remember the last time I saw a play like that for the Texans. They are usually by the other team at our expense. Good job offense!

**edo783** · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel

That was a beautiful TD play yesterday with Daniels. I can't remember the last time I saw a play like that for the Texans. They are usually by the other team at our expense. Good job offense!

Other than maybe Carr's fake for a TD, that was probably our best executed play this year. He was wide open. Like you said, that's has usually been the other team that gets that open.

**Kaiser Toro** · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by edo783

Other than maybe Carr's fake for a TD, that was probably our best executed play this year. He was wide open. Like you said, that's has usually been the other team that gets that open.

And I would agree. Imagine that edo, you and I agreeing about Carr. We have truly entered a fresh and exciting time.

TexanSam · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

Ironically, Daniels was a Casserly pick. He pushed hard for him and sold Kubiak on the pick.

As bad as Casserly was at screwing up the first day of the draft, he managed some quality picks with our fourth rounders. Domanick Davis, Jerome Mathis, and now Owen Daniels. It's nice having a tight end to actually pass too now. I am surprised he only has 9 catches though. I thought he had more than that.

Scooter · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by tburdette

I remember how mad I was when we picked Daniels. I really wanted Ko Simpson but I guess thats why I am here and not on the sidelines. Good pick Kubiak and Co.

i was the same way. i couldnt believe we passed up on the safeties, but like i said then, i trust kubiak and he hasnt disappointed.

FirstTexansFan · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

And I would agree. Imagine that edo, you and I agreeing about Carr. We have truly entered a fresh and exciting time.

Run Edo RUN! When KT agrees with ya, and then wants to talk about this new relationship...well, he's from Austin...<Paid Advertisement to Keep Austin Weird!>

thunderkyss · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by JEB2ATX

I agree V. Davis has been hurt but that still can't count against Owen Daniels and his tremendous ability to block and catch the ball effectively in every game.

V. Davis would've got my vote but you can't count that against Owen. He has stayed healthy. To not be a first rounder he is great!!!

The biggest thing to me, about OwenDaniels Rookie season, is that he starts ahead of two pretty good tightends.

Bruenner blocks with the best of them. He's got sure hands and is a good reciever.... doesn't have the speed or versatility of Owen, but he is a good reciever in his own right.

& he is starting Over Putzier, who came to Houston from Denver.

chuckm · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

The biggest thing to me, about OwenDaniels Rookie season, is that he starts ahead of two pretty good tightends.

Bruenner blocks with the best of them. He's got sure hands and is a good reciever.... doesn't have the speed or versatility of Owen, but he is a good reciever in his own right.

& he is starting Over Putzier, who came to Houston from Denver.

Stop it ...... You're killing me .......

146 receptions in 12 years ....... that's more than 12 per year ... WOW

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1360

aj. · 10-23-2006

Despite what's been said, and by whom, I don't believe Casserly had anything to do with Daniels being here. This acquisition - actually the entire draft - had Kubiak written all over it.

The thing I liked about the Daniels TD is that when Carr bootlegged, it appeared to me that he first looked at Moulds in the corner (from my vantage point behind him). Moulds was covered, then Carr saw Owen slide open as I think it was Brian Williams? came in on a delayed blitz - then Carr squared up and hit him. I watched the replay on DVR and it's not obvious but when I saw it at full speed from my vantage point, it sure looked like Owen was the second read on that one.

thunderkyss · 10-23-2006

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Originally Posted by chuckm

Stop it ...... You're killing me .......

146 receptions in 12 years ....... that's more than 12 per year ... WOW

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1360

He hasn't caught the ball in the last 4 years, because he wasn't used that way. Doesn't make him a bad reciever. Throw the ball to Bruener, and he'll catch it with his hands.

phantom17 · 10-23-2006

Who cares about the other tight ends in league, Owen has been MUCH better than I expected! He has great hands & seem to run good routes, & he's just a rook! So far I like all of our draft choices, I'm still pissed about Spencer, I hope he fully recovers. Wali Lundy should be our feature back & should alternate with Gado in the backfield. I'm hoping Dayne will be gone next year bcuz he's been a big disappointment-even with our O Line, for someone so big he doesn't seem to move the pile forward often, like he should! Oh well my 2

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10-23-2006	#1
Texans Front Row Crew Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 41 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	Owen Daniels is the best... Rookie Tight end this year. A while back, I posted some stats for the NFL rookies to see how the did when compaired to each other. But I don't think i included tight-ends. And now with a quick look at NFL.com, I see Owen Daniels ahead of all his peers. AND HE WAS DRAFTED 98TH. Good for you Daniels, keep up the good work- and I'm thankful we have you on our TEAM!! O. Daniels 9 catches, 84 yards, 3 TDs, picked 98th J. Klopfenstein 7 catches, 118 yards, 1 TD, picked 46th V. Davis 5 catches, 37 yards, 1 TD, picked 6th L. Pope 4 catches, 50 yards, 0 TD, picked 72nd M. Lewis 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 28th D. Thomas 2 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD, picked 86th A. Fasano 3 catches, 39 yards, 0 TD, picked 53 T. Scheffler 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD, picked 61 Most of these TE were highly rated (V. Davis and Pope) and, I know we have to play the rest of the season, but It's nice to see our rookies doing better that their peers.

10-23-2006	#3
JEB2ATX Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... I agree V. Davis has been hurt but that still can't count against Owen Daniels and his tremendous ability to block and catch the ball effectively in every game. V. Davis would've got my vote but you can't count that against Owen. He has stayed healthy. To not be a first rounder he is great!!! __________________ Currently in the ATX...Bred in the H

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Kaiser Toro Native Mod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Straight Outta Austin Age: 43 Posts: 15,901 Rep Power: 20164	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... Daniels has turned out to be a quality pick to date, hopefully he will scale accordingly. The fact that his HC, OC and/or QB look to him in the red zone, and he makes the plays, tells me everything as he performs his pass catching duties as a TE. __________________ Texans 2012: Kidz II Men

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Texans Front Row Crew Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 41 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... I didn't know about Fasano, ( he is still listed as a TE on NFL.com) and just a note: I thought M. Colston (NO) was a TE converted to WR, that seems to be working well. I'll look for any other converted to TEs and update.

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eric138 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 38 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 15	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... if he would have ran the right route when they were in the south end zone he would have had another TD added on that list. That was a beautiful play that turned into nothing. The boy is a bad mofo in my book.

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tburdette Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Williamstown, West Virginia Age: 26 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 7	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... I remember how mad I was when we picked Daniels. I really wanted Ko Simpson but I guess thats why I am here and not on the sidelines. Good pick Kubiak and Co.

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TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... Ironically, Daniels was a Casserly pick. He pushed hard for him and sold Kubiak on the pick. __________________ "...the Texans select...Adrian Peterson, RB, University of Oklahoma."

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Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,242 Rep Power: 84022	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... That was a beautiful TD play yesterday with Daniels. I can't remember the last time I saw a play like that for the Texans. They are usually by the other team at our expense. Good job offense! __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

10-23-2006	#18
aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... Despite what's been said, and by whom, I don't believe Casserly had anything to do with Daniels being here. This acquisition - actually the entire draft - had Kubiak written all over it. The thing I liked about the Daniels TD is that when Carr bootlegged, it appeared to me that he first looked at Moulds in the corner (from my vantage point behind him). Moulds was covered, then Carr saw Owen slide open as I think it was Brian Williams? came in on a delayed blitz - then Carr squared up and hit him. I watched the replay on DVR and it's not obvious but when I saw it at full speed from my vantage point, it sure looked like Owen was the second read on that one. Last edited by aj.; 10-23-2006 at 08:33 PM.

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phantom17 #1 Fan in RGV! Join Date: May 2004 Location: RGV, TX Age: 45 Posts: 596 Rep Power: 187	Re: Owen Daniels is the best... Who cares about the other tight ends in league, Owen has been MUCH better than I expected! He has great hands & seem to run good routes, & he's just a rook! So far I like all of our draft choices, I'm still pissed about Spencer, I hope he fully recovers. Wali Lundy should be our feature back & should alternate with Gado in the backfield. I'm hoping Dayne will be gone next year bcuz he's been a big disappointment-even with our O Line, for someone so big he doesn't seem to move the pile forward often, like he should! Oh well my 2 ! __________________ GO TEXANS! J.J. Watt = BEAST!

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