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Old 10-20-2006   #1
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Default ESPN: OL Rankings

Since I know you all hate ESPN, thought I would just add to the pile....

Top OL as ranked by Scouts Inc. from ESPN Insider.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...ory?id=2632995

Rank - Team - Best Player
1 - Pitt - Alan Faneca (G)
2 - Denver - Tom Nalen (C)
3 - Bengals - Eric Steinbach (C)
4 - Colts - Tarik Glenn (T)
5 - Eagles - Shawn Andrews (G)
6 - Redskins
7 - Patriots
8 - Jags
9 - Vikings
10 - Bears
11 - Seahawks
12 - Chargers
13 - Panthers
14 - Falcons
15 - Giants
16 - Saints
17 - Cowgirls
18 - Titans
19 - Chiefs
20 - Rams
21 - Giants Junior Varsity
22 - 49ers
23 - Ravens
24 - Bucs
25 - Browns
26 - Packers
27 - Lions
28 - Bills
29 - Dolphins - Vernon Carey (T)
30 - Cardinals - Reggie Wells (G)
31 - Texans - Chester Pitts (G)
32 - Raiders - Barry Sims (G)

The Texans use pretty much the same blocking schemes as the Denver Broncos, where head coach Gary Kubiak came from. The Texans are trying to find or develop athletic linemen. This scheme requires the players to have time together and familiarity with one another, which, at this point, the Texans are lacking.

I thought the Bengals were a little high, and Atlanta is at 14. San Diego at 12, seemed surprising to me. Tennessee at 18. Cheifs at 19, also surprising
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

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Since I know you all hate ESPN, thought I would just add to the pile....

Top OL as ranked by Scouts Inc. from ESPN Insider.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...ory?id=2632995

Rank - Team - Best Player
1 - Pitt - Alan Faneca (G)
2 - Denver - Tom Nalen (C)
3 - Bengals - Eric Steinbach (C)
4 - Colts - Tarik Glenn (T)
5 - Eagles - Shawn Andrews (G)
6 - Redskins
7 - Patriots
8 - Jags
9 - Vikings
10 - Bears
11 - Seahawks
12 - Chargers
13 - Panthers
14 - Falcons
15 - Giants
16 - Saints
17 - Cowgirls
18 - Titans
19 - Chiefs
20 - Rams
21 - Giants Junior Varsity
22 - 49ers
23 - Ravens
24 - Bucs
25 - Browns
26 - Packers
27 - Lions
28 - Bills
29 - Dolphins - Vernon Carey (T)
30 - Cardinals - Reggie Wells (G)
31 - Texans - Chester Pitts (G)
32 - Raiders - Barry Sims (G)

The Texans use pretty much the same blocking schemes as the Denver Broncos, where head coach Gary Kubiak came from. The Texans are trying to find or develop athletic linemen. This scheme requires the players to have time together and familiarity with one another, which, at this point, the Texans are lacking.

I thought the Bengals were a little high, and Atlanta is at 14. San Diego at 12, seemed surprising to me. Tennessee at 18. Cheifs at 19, also surprising
I told everyone our OL sucks. Now, what are they going to do about it?
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What kind of information did they use to come to this conclusion??
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What kind of information did they use to come to this conclusion??
Their "expert" ESPN deduction analysis skills, duh!! ESPN is all knowing, especially Sean Salisbury, he's the smartest one on the show
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Well, now even the *****s on ESPN are right about our line.
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

Check out this interesting article on FootballOutsiders:

EPC Special: Why Canít Arizona Run?

Basically it analyzes part of the Chicago-AZ game, and shows why they couldn't run.

It is an interesting case study because Edgerin James is a proven runner over a number of years, and it shows you what happens if even a few parts of your scheme or your o-line is messed up. Comments in the post are interesting too.

I am certainly not saying that our running backs are very talented but they are being hindered by the line, but rather it is an illustration of all the things that need to happen for a run play to work.
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What kind of information did they use to come to this conclusion??
Scouts Inc. - They scouted them.
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

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Check out this interesting article on FootballOutsiders:

EPC Special: Why Canít Arizona Run?

Basically it analyzes part of the Chicago-AZ game, and shows why they couldn't run.

It is an interesting case study because Edgerin James is a proven runner over a number of years, and it shows you what happens if even a few parts of your scheme or your o-line is messed up. Comments in the post are interesting too.

I am certainly not saying that our running backs are very talented but they are being hindered by the line, but rather it is an illustration of all the things that need to happen for a run play to work.
Good read. Strangely familiar.
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I am certainly not saying that our running backs are very talented but they are being hindered by the line, but rather it is an illustration of all the things that need to happen for a run play to work.
The line isn't much different than in previous years when we were a decent run blocking team. The biggest difference is the change of coaching. These coaches have them pass blocking better but are worse run blockers.
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

you dont win without a good, at least decent oline. they need to fix this next year and then worry about defense.
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

if it wasnt for our run blocking.. that ranking would be totally off base. But our run blocking is bad enough that it makes an average oline a terrible one.
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Default Re: ESPN: OL Rankings

IMO, the O-line talent is ....limited. However, the coaching staff has compensated for it by closing up the splits which helps the pass protection, but winds up making it harder to run. Harder to open holes up the middle when everyone is jammed together. I know the idea is to protect Carr (not a bad thing), but as the Denver WCO is predicated on a run first and then play action type of game, it seems a bit odd that they would do something that on the surface seems to be counter to what the expressed offense style is.
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