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Old 09-26-2004   #21
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Someone on here predicted that the OLB's by the end of 2004 would be PEEK & BABIN. I think that is EXACTLY what it should be. Wong has been improved compared to previous seasons. But that's not saying a whole lot.
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Someone on here predicted that the OLB's by the end of 2004 would be PEEK & BABIN. I think that is EXACTLY what it should be. Wong has been improved compared to previous seasons. But that's not saying a whole lot.
Count me as one of them. By the end of the year, peek, wong, sharper and babin at linebackers.
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I can't believe I am reading this stuff when Babin had a couple of great open field tackles on LT in week 1.
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Don't get me wrong, Babin is awesome. I'm just not to fond of foreman and really fond of Babs and Peek. Babin is gonna be great just he young and its only his third NFL game.
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I cant believe you guys , havent you seen the way Foreman has been playing this year ? hes been all over the field lately hes playing aalot better than last year , I was all for replacing him with Peek at the begginig of the season but hes made me change my mind the way hes been playing . Peek should be out there and I think hes awsome but he also gets injured alot , I agree with the earlier post use him spareingly like in 3rd and long situations by taking out wong or Babin .
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Look there is no harm in having 5 quality linebackers. Peek can be in there for either Babin or Wong on obvious passing downs.

If Peek can get his run defense and pass protection down he could be a really good player. I see him as where Clark Haggans was a couple of years ago when he got 6.5 sacks. It wasn't until this season that he moved into a full time role.
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no way in hell can Peek play DE in the 3-4.
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Old 09-27-2004   #28
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Peek will not play DE first of all, no way no how. Maybe if he played for a team that used a 4-3 defense he might be able to but not with the Texans.

Peek is a monster at getting to the quarterback. He will be our situational pass rusher. Teams will know we are blitzing, but with his speed it wont really mattered. He will probably finish with around 8 or 9 sacks on the season. but very few tackles
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I think Jacquescas has it about right. Might move Wong to the middle on those plays and then we could have a middle rusher if we wanted to. In the 34 if you don't get pressure on the QB you are dead in the water, as we have seen. Need to get Peek involved, but not as a starter.
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The blitz packages have been very mediocre and we just have not been agressive in that area. We are not fooling anyone. It wasn't until late that we sent more people and Green's time was diminished. Peek has to be able to cover as well as blitz hard because if Peek blitzed all the time then that doesn't do much for our scheme and it could be too easy for offensive coordinators to pick up on that. Peek will thrive late this year and blossom next year. Babin is solid but he is still a rookie and good enough to beat out Peek.
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Oh, shoot. Let's just go to a 2-5 defense.
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Peek was untouched both times through the line, so it's not like he made some slick move on the RT to get through. They were both blitz packages. Besides, Babin is starting this sunday against Oakland.
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some complain that peek is not good on the run but when he is in there he brings a lot more intensity to our defence like Ray Lewis does to the Ravens. I think we need to give him a chance to start and see how consistent he can be.
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some complain that peek is not good on the run but when he is in there he brings a lot more intensity to our defence like Ray Lewis does to the Ravens. I think we need to give him a chance to start and see how consistent he can be.
I don't think that will happen right now. The Texans have too much invested in Babin to bench him on the 4th game of the season. Besides, the only way he's going to get better is by playing games and making mistakes.
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some complain that peek is not good on the run but when he is in there he brings a lot more intensity to our defence like Ray Lewis does to the Ravens. I think we need to give him a chance to start and see how consistent he can be.
People complain that Peek isn't good against the run but we also haven't been good against the run with him on the bench. I say don't give him the start but start bringing him in more and moving him around from left to right when you sub with him. Keeps our starters fresh, and doesn't allow the offense to know whether he is blitzing or not.

Oh yeah, by the way. Foreman has been playing alot better and I don't think anybody noticed because of Peek's plays but Foreman made a statement tackle late in the game that I believed sparked this defense late and made me realize, we just may see our real defense back now. It was on KCs last drive. I don't know if it was second or third down but he came flying by to finish a tackle and it was a pretty hard hit. When he got up, he didn't help the other guy up but gave him this nasty look. It was a look I had seen before. I believe it was the look he had when we played Pittsburgh our first year, when he was staring down the offense from our defensive huddle. I hope I am right. I would love to see our defense take over a game with the offense we have.

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You are correct. Foreman has been playing the best ball I have seen him play. Might be motivated by the thought of going to second team in favor of Wong in the middle. Whatever the reason, I hope it continues. One thing about a defense, they feed off of each others success and level of play. Need the intensity to turn up and I think they will be "OK" as long as we attack, rather than react to what the offense is doing.
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Maybe they will start to unleash our defense a little more now. I get the impression the defense has been hiding some things.
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Does anyone else on the forum think Peek should get the start sunday?I know we have alot vested in Babin,but Peek seems to be a step or two faster then Babin..Its all about QB pressure,and I think we have a better shot with Peek out there.Oakland has a massive line....speed kills If a thread of this nature has already been started,I apologize
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Does anyone else on the forum think Peek should get the start sunday?I know we have alot vested in Babin,but Peek seems to be a step or two faster then Babin..Its all about QB pressure,and I think we have a better shot with Peek out there.Oakland has a massive line....speed kills If a thread of this nature has already been started,I apologize
It's not all about QB pressure. The reason he hasn't been out there much to this point is because every team in the league knows that any misdirection to his side means a free ride down the sideline. If he becomes a little more disciplined, then I think we will and should see him more on passing downs- though I think Babin has looked pretty good with the exception of the KC game. And, in fairness, they are the best OL in football. Let's not forget, Peek was left unblocked on his sack. It looked to me like KC expected him to get sucked in on the run action and when he didn't, he was free to tee off on TGreen.
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all i'm gonna say is this...you put performance before potential
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