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Old 10-10-2006   #1
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http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2002/
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David Carr *updated 7/5*
Jabar Gaffney
Chester Pitts
Fred Weary
Charles Hill
Jonathan Wells
Jarrod Baxter
Ramon Walker
Demarcus Faggins
Howard Green
Greg White
Ahmad Miller
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Andre Johnson
Bennie Joppru
Antwaan Peek *updated 7/5*
Seth Wand
Dave Ragone
Domanick Davis *updated 7/5*
Drew Henson
Keith Wright
Curry Burns
>> Chance Pearce
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2004/
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Dunta Robinson
Jason Babin *updated 7/5*
Glenn Earl
Vontez Duff
Jammal Lord
Charlie Anderson *updated 7/5*
Raheem Orr
Sloan Thomas
B.J. Symons
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2005/

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Travis Johnson
Vernand Morency
Jerome Mathis Drew Hodgdon
Drew Hodgdon
C.C. Brown
Kenneth Pettway
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2006/
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Mario Williams
DeMeco Ryans
Charles Spencer
Eric Winston
Owen Daniels

Wali Lundy*updated 7/5*
David Anderson
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Ryan Young
Aaron Glenn
Gary Walker
Jamie Sharper
Jermaine Lewis
Marcus Coleman
Seth Payne *updated 7/5*
Matt Campbell
Matt Stevens
Jeremy McKinney
Ryan Schau
Charlie Rogers
Sean McDermott
Jabari Issa
Avion Black
Danny Wuerffel
Brian Allen
Johnny Huggins
and we gave a 2nd for hollings and 6th round to milford brown

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21 players has stayed out of 65 players
*edit* 14 out of 65*
unbelievable draft record

if my math is right

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Default Re: Chew on this:Unbelieveable

FYI Raheem Orr = Shantee Orr.

And yes, the foibles of our previous regime are painfully apparent. Good compilation, puts everything in depressing perspective.

Hey, it could be worse. We could be the Lions!
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FYI Raheem Orr = Shantee Orr.

And yes, the foibles of our previous regime are painfully apparent. Good compilation, puts everything in depressing perspective.

Hey, it could be worse. We could be the Lions!
thanks I missed and made the changes .. going through I scanned over AJ and Daunte too LOL
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They brought up this exact thing this morning on 610....way to steal their thunder..lol .
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They brought up this exact thing this morning on 610....way to steal their thunder..lol .
wish I could listen to 610 to hear the responses
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FYI Raheem Orr = Shantee Orr
Raheem Orr, an OLB conversion from Rutgers, was a Texans 7th round pick in '04. Shantee was picked up on waivers from Green Bay in '03 (his rookie year).

Charlie Anderson is the draft pick who should be in bold.

That list is just depressing.
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#1 - Raheem Orr is not Shantee Orr
#2 - I posted this last night in the NFL forum, heres the link:
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noted..

I don't think the Florida Marlins had this much turnover
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Forgot the link: http://forums.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=29461
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We have drafted pretty crappily over the years:

2002 -
Carr, Pitts, Weary, Faggins still here.
Carr has taken 5 years to develop, Gaffney was a bust, Pitts has been average, Weary has underachieved, and the rest of our 9 picks (except for Faggins) have been useless.

2003 -
Johnson, Peek, Davis still here.
Johnson is our best draft choice yet, Peek has underachieved, Davis has been great but is always hurt and his career may be over. Hollings, Joppru, Wand and the rest of them were flops.

2004 -
Robinson, Babin, Earl still here.
We gave up WAY too much for Babin, an underachiever. Robinson is hit or miss, Earl should be a backup, and the rest aren't even on the team.

2005 -
TJ, Brown, Hodgon, Mathis
TJ is an enigma, Brown should be a backup, Hodgon may not even be serviceable as a backup, mathis is uncoachable and injury prone, Buchannon (our 2nd and 3rd rounder) has been a COMPLETE debacle.

We have had some tough years building through the draft!
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Vontez Duff- forgot about him. I remember when he was drafted, everyone thought he was the replacement for JJ Moses.
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I wonder how many of our picks are even still in the NFL
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21 players has stayed out of 65 players

unbelievable draft record

if my math is right
How do those numbers compare to other teams for those years? Say, the Steelers, Broncos, Cowboys, or Patriots? Just curious. It would be interesting to see exactly how bad our drafting was, as compared to other teams.
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How do those numbers compare to other teams for those years? Say, the Steelers, Broncos, Cowboys, or Patriots?

Just curious. It would be interesting to see exactly how bad our drafting was, as compared to other teams.
That would be interesting to see, although I think the Steelers are one of the teams that are very successful in the draft. We'd have to look at a cross-section of the league to see a fair picture.
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How do those numbers compare to other teams for those years? Say, the Steelers, Broncos, Cowboys, or Patriots? Just curious. It would be interesting to see exactly how bad our drafting was, as compared to other teams.
Its not just that there arne't many on the team, its that the ones still on the team are terrible. There are few Texans that have been drafted that could start anywhere else left on this team.
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Its not just that there arne't many on the team, its that the ones still on the team are terrible. There are few Texans that have been drafted that could start anywhere else left on this team.
Like who?

And I would still like some numbers, for comparison.
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It's not hard to see why we've been terrible.
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top that off

do I count 3 that are injured?

starters out of that according to the official website.
12 (or should I say #1 on depth chart due to DL rotates a bunch)

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While that sounds bad, I wonder from just the draft perspective how we compare with other teams? I remember looking at that 2002 draft and really that was a weak class. There were some good players, but overall it was not very deep or talented.

I think we should have done better given the positions we drafted from, however, the draft is as much art as science...sometimes I think we focused on the biology and missed the beautiful sunset...or was that saw the big muscles and didn't see the puny heart inside.

Thankfully this year we got some heart...go Ryans!
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Nope. Raheem Orr was a LB drafted out of Rutgers. Shantee Orr was an undrafted free agent out of Michigan.
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