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Old 09-23-2004   #21
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It's a simple fact that if you're going to post on a message board that your opinion will be challenged by others. You could state that the "sky is blue" and end up with a few dissenting opinions saying that it was more of a light blue or a dark blue almost purple. .
The sky is not blue! It's black with a bunch of white spots. You should look up there before you post such nonsense!
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Old 09-24-2004   #22
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Bill's/TexanFan,

I think that you're being just a little thin-skinned. While it is true that some people just like to be argumentative, and others will try to pick apart everything someone posts once they have been in a heated debate with them previously, I really don't think that's the case here. If you post something negative on one of our players/coaches, you should expect your viewpoint to be challenged.





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I often see Coach Capers jotting things down and that is a bit different than most coaches.

I think he is just a very detailed oriented person.
I heard a radio caller ask coach Capers about this recently.

He said that what he writes down is the down, distance, result of the play, and maybe one other basic tidbit(it's been a couple of weeks ago), so he has those stats with him when he goes to the lockeroom at halftime.

I remember when I heard this thinking to myself "that's all he's writing down". I was kinda disappointed. I guess I expected it to be a little more intricate than that, ie. specific blitz packages/coverage schemes used in certain down/distances, etc... But I guess that would be much easier to accurately track by one of the coaches up in the booth, or someone with a feed from that vantage point.
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The fact the Capers is taking notes is almost proof agaisnt those who say that his play calling is so bad and that he's putting no thought into it
Capers doesn't call the plays. He is in the loop and has veto power but he lets his ops o's (coordinators) implement the game plans on game day. He makes input to and approves the game plans and makes executive decisions when necessary during the game.

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Capers doesn't call the plays. He is in the loop and has veto power but he lets his ops o's (coordinators) implement the game plans on game day. He makes input to and approves the game plans and makes executive decisions when necessary during the game.
Your right he does not call the plays.

but its his game plan and like you said he has veto power.

when he sees that its an option to run the ball when down by 2 scores with 4 mins left and needing 90 yards to score. AND he dont veto thats his fault.
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What a thrilling debate! I enjoyed immensely (especially since I was not involved). At least football gets our minds off noncontroversial topics like war, politics, religion and who makes the best chocolate ice cream (Blue Bell of course).
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AND he dont veto thats his fault.
Well if you're into playing the blame game, I guess the head coach is as good a place to start as anywhere else. He's ultimately responsible for what goes on out there.

That drive you're talking about (down by 2 scores with 4 mins left and needing 90 yards to score) wasn't all that bad. They gained 85 yards in less than 4 minutes and would have had a shot at an on-side kick if Carr had been able to convert the 4th and 5 from the 5. A long quick strike would have been nice but then after the INT or the 3 and out, everyone in here would have been pissing and moaning about Carr and/or Palmer's incompetence.

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They ran 2? times on that drive how much time could have been saved with incomplete passes?

everyone shares in the blame

Palmer for calling that junk
Capers for not vetoing it
Carr for switching to a run

Sure its not the reason we lost but its a microcosm for everything that many of us are not liking about the coaching staff
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They ran 2? times on that drive how much time could have been saved with incomplete passes?
Looking at the play sequence, probably about 35 seconds.

Hate on the coaching staff all you want. They aren't perfect (no coaching staff is) but I'm more interested in better execution/implementation and elimination of turnovers by the guys on the field. Their gameplan was good enough to win vs. SD and their 2nd half adjustments were good enough to overcome Detroit. This has been beaten to death but by winning the turnover battle these first two weeks we'd be at least 1-1.

The coaching staff is an easy target but for every running play in a failed series that someone beyatches about (hence: terrible play call), I can show you two or three (or more) running plays in a successful drive that are conveniently forgotten because there were points scored at the end of the drive.

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They ran 2? times on that drive how much time could have been saved with incomplete passes?

everyone shares in the blame
You are right about everyone sharing the blame, but running twice isn't so bad. Our problem was when we got to the 23 yard line it took us 7 plays to not score. We had seven shots at the end zone inside the 23 yard line. The Lions let us drive down the field with soft coverage, and when it got tough we crumbled.
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Hey Hoser,

This is Texas,

can we all just get along?
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Hey Hoser,

This is Texas,

can we all just get along?

The last guy to say that was from L.A. (Rodney King I believe) and he got the **** kicked out of him by the L.A.P.D. !
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A long quick strike would have been nice ...
And they did try the long quick strike but that was the 41ish yd AJ catch the refs blew the call on.
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What a thrilling debate! I enjoyed immensely (especially since I was not involved). At least football gets our minds off noncontroversial topics like war, politics, religion and who makes the best chocolate ice cream (Blue Bell of course).
Chocolate Ice Cream? Are you insane? Everyone knows that Cookies N Cream is the best, and Blue Bell is the best at making that too.
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I sure as hell hope we beat Kansas City.
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I'll tell you what Caper's is writing down 60% of the time: "Well that play sucked, let's not run that again."
LOL. He needs to pass that paper on to Palmer, because he keeps calling the same unimaginative plays.
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I find that Capers handles adversity well. He doesn't point specific fingers. His philosophy seems to be teamwork. I like the fact that he does point out certain highlights and good even when we shoot ourselves in the foot. I am disappointed at 0-2, but a W today would erase a lot of that. Go Texans! Yes, Palmer could be a little more creative in his playcalling. Good grief.
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