Ted Ginn, Jr. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

BattleRedToro · 10-02-2006

I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early?

Blake · 10-02-2006

Im sure he will come out this year. No doubt.

Are you hoping for him to be a Texan? I still think we need defensive help. Safety, and OLB are problems IMO.

1. LaRon Landry L.S.U. 6-2 202 4.50
2. Brandon Meriweather Miami (FL) 6-0 195 4.45
3. Michael Griffin Texas 6-0 205

kastofsna · 10-02-2006

ginn is still extremely raw. just a speed guy at this point, in terms of NFL projection.

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1. LaRon Landry L.S.U. 6-2 202 4.50
2. Brandon Meriweather Miami (FL) 6-0 195 4.45
3. Michael Griffin Texas 6-0 205

i'd take anthony redick over all three of these guys.

too bad he's not coming out.

**mexican_texan** · 10-02-2006

I want Ginn to stay another year so that we can say he's just Moulds' replacement...like that's gonna happen...

**Trap_Star** · 10-02-2006

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Originally Posted by kastofsna

ginn is still extremely raw. just a speed guy at this point, in terms of NFL projection.

i'd take anthony redick over all three of these guys.

too bad he's not coming out.

I'd take Kenny Phillips over Reddick...

kastofsna · 10-02-2006

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I'd take Kenny Phillips over Reddick...

they'll both be top 10 picks next year. which is the most absurd thing ever.

kastofsna · 10-02-2006

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Originally Posted by BattleRedToro

If there is a bonafide OL available when we pick in the first round next year I wouldn't be suprised if the Texans go with him.

joe thomas is better than d'brickashaw ferguson. if you get the chance, you take him, i don't care what team you are. unless of course you have a shot at brady quinn or calvin johnson, MAYBE. other than, you take thomas, period.

one of the reasons i almost kinda hope miami keeps playing the way we are.

**Trap_Star** · 10-02-2006

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I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early?

He's a slimmer Devin Hester. I dunno about him in the NFL as a WR. At 170 pounds, he'd get killed by a Sean Taylor. He needs to be a cb IMO, like a Samari Rolle type....

**gtexan02** · 10-02-2006

Calvin Johnson looks better imo. He has the speed plus rediculous size

hot pickle · 10-02-2006

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Calvin Johnson looks better imo. He has the speed plus rediculous size

and amazing hand stregth
i love calvin johnson

**Trap_Star** · 10-02-2006

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Originally Posted by BattleRedToro

Well if we added him we could have Johnson & Johnson.

That'd be sweet...

**Trap_Star** · 10-02-2006

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I know he is 170 now but couldn't he add some weight. I'm sure he would lose some speed in the process but it looks like he has plenty to spare.

I dont think he can add very much. He has a small frame. Listed at 170, but i would'nt be surprised if he's really 160-165..

TexansSeminole · 10-02-2006

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I know he is 170 now but couldn't he add some weight. I'm sure he would lose some speed in the process but it looks like he has plenty to spare.

No No NEVER DO THIS. That's what defines him as a player. I would give Calvin Johnson the nod over Ted Ginn Jr. but in my opinion, you can't really go wrong with either guys. It just depends on what you need. I wouldn'tt mind having a fast slot guy to take passes the distance on the Texans, but maybe that's what Mathis is. Calvin Johnson looks alot like Andre Johnson did in college, maybe even better.

kastofsna · 10-03-2006

andre johnson is definitely faster than calvin johnson. he was more of a deep burner than calvin. say what you want about calvin johnson having 4.3 speed or whatever, but he's still used primarily as a possession receiver. calvin has better hands without a doubt, and fights for the ball much better. overall, calvin is the better prospect. and i thought andre johnson was the #1 player in that draft. but i tend to think that about most guys from the U.

YoungTexanFan · 10-03-2006

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andre johnson is definitely faster than calvin johnson. he was more of a deep burner than calvin. say what you want about calvin johnson having 4.3 speed or whatever, but he's still used primarily as a possession receiver. calvin has better hands without a doubt, and fights for the ball much better. overall, calvin is the better prospect. and i thought andre johnson was the #1 player in that draft. but i tend to think that about most guys from the U.

You thought he was a better prospect that Carson Palmer?

Also, Charles Rogers was just as good of a prospect but had much better hands. He failed for a few reasons, most notably detroit, injuries, drugs, and apathy.

YoungTexanFan · 10-03-2006

But back to the topic at hand.

Ginn Jr. is nothing to be excited about if you are a Texans fan. He is a much more hyped Mathis. He can turn a little quicker, but the speed and vision is the same. If you watch Ginn run routes, it is sloppy. His hands are iffy as well. He is a glorified KR IMO. I do not see him with a future at WR. I would not pick him unless he fell to the 2nd round.

10-03-2006

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But back to the topic at hand.

Ginn Jr. is nothing to be excited about if you are a Texans fan. He is a much more hyped Mathis. He can turn a little quicker, but the speed and vision is the same. If you watch Ginn run routes, it is sloppy. His hands are iffy as well. He is a glorified KR IMO. I do not see him with a future at WR. I would not pick him unless he fell to the 2nd round.

Yeah..I am not too fond of him either....He is fast....

TexansSeminole · 10-03-2006

Yea, kinda reminds me of Bethel Johnson.

10-03-2006

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Yea, kinda reminds me of Bethel Johnson.

The reason you never hear about some of the better players in college is because of guys like Ginn...People are addicted to speed and sometimes forget it takes more than a 4.3 to actually be a good player on Sunday...Ginn will probably go in the first due to hype....

YoungTexanFan · 10-03-2006

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The reason you never hear about some of the better players in college is because of guys like Ginn...People are addicted to speed and sometimes forget it takes more than a 4.3 to actually be a good player on Sunday...Ginn will probably go in the first due to hype....

Yeah. He and Troy Smith are both WAY overhyped. I still think the best QB on athletic ability alone is JaMarcus Russle.

10-02-2006	#2
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,584 Rep Power: 14926	Re: Ted Ginn, Jr. Im sure he will come out this year. No doubt. Are you hoping for him to be a Texan? I still think we need defensive help. Safety, and OLB are problems IMO. 1. LaRon Landry L.S.U. 6-2 202 4.50 2. Brandon Meriweather Miami (FL) 6-0 195 4.45 3. Michael Griffin Texas 6-0 205 __________________

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gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Re: Ted Ginn, Jr. Calvin Johnson looks better imo. He has the speed plus rediculous size __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

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kastofsna Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 7,438 Rep Power: 405	Re: Ted Ginn, Jr. andre johnson is definitely faster than calvin johnson. he was more of a deep burner than calvin. say what you want about calvin johnson having 4.3 speed or whatever, but he's still used primarily as a possession receiver. calvin has better hands without a doubt, and fights for the ball much better. overall, calvin is the better prospect. and i thought andre johnson was the #1 player in that draft. but i tend to think that about most guys from the U.

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YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,788 Rep Power: 653	Re: Ted Ginn, Jr. But back to the topic at hand. Ginn Jr. is nothing to be excited about if you are a Texans fan. He is a much more hyped Mathis. He can turn a little quicker, but the speed and vision is the same. If you watch Ginn run routes, it is sloppy. His hands are iffy as well. He is a glorified KR IMO. I do not see him with a future at WR. I would not pick him unless he fell to the 2nd round. __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

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TexansSeminole Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 25 Posts: 6,850 Rep Power: 10218	Re: Ted Ginn, Jr. Yea, kinda reminds me of Bethel Johnson.

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BattleRedToro Thread Killer Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 2,432 Rep Power: 3988	Ted Ginn, Jr. I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early? __________________ "Hey fool, this ain't no football game!" - Mr. T

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