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Old 10-01-2006   #1
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I think its pretty obvious that we have a major issue on offense and its our RB play. They have all run the ball horrible. They did step up and have some good blocks on passing plays, but running the ball has been BAD.

Rushing stats this week: 33 rushes for 65 yards 2.0 avg.
Previous 3 weeks: 61 rushes for 239 yards 3.9 avg.

On the season: 94 rushes 304 yards 3.23 avg
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I think its pretty obvious that we have a major issue on offense and its our RB play. They have all run the ball horrible. They did step up and have some good blocks on passing plays, but running the ball has been BAD.
sure has, but why has it been so chronic. Is it the scheme or is it the players are just not good enough. Lets hope DD is back to full fitness next year or we could be drafting a RB in April
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it hasnt been horrible. They did get stuffed alot though.

Honestly.. we won the game.. if we get 50 rushing yards the rest of the season and win games.. im not going to complain.
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We're not going to be winning very man more games if we can't run the ball. If it wasnt for Carr and the WideOuts, we'd be 0-4. For a running team, we don't scare anyone. Best believe teams will start scheming against our passing game.
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For the next 48 hours, I plan on being happy and enjoying the victory. Personally I don't know when the next one will come, so I am going to savor this moment before I stant knocking the team down.

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We will get our run game going eventually...We just dont have any players that pickup long runs...its more short definite runs.
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Gold stars for sherman and the make shift o-line. Wasn't perfect. But it was good enough. Nice job.
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Gold stars for sherman and the make shift o-line. Wasn't perfect. But it was good enough. Nice job.
It was good enough to beat the Dolphins, but it wasn't good.

Can't run block, and can't keep Carr from getting blindsided.

I'm happy we got the win, but I'm still not satisfied with our blocking in the slightest.
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I think they will work on it during the bye week, and I think it is more a factor of their run-blocking then the RB's.
Agreed our backs are fine its the blocking that has to improve.
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It was good enough to beat the Dolphins, but it wasn't good.

Can't run block, and can't keep Carr from getting blindsided.

I'm happy we got the win, but I'm still not satisfied with our blocking in the slightest.
The play of the inside of our line is weak, and we have a major problem at left tackle. Carr got a lot of pressure from the left, and that is on top of the sacks and the hits as he threw.
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It was good enough to beat the Dolphins, but it wasn't good.

Can't run block, and can't keep Carr from getting blindsided.

I'm happy we got the win, but I'm still not satisfied with our blocking in the slightest.
i completely agree, our blocking is as bad as it's ever been. the difference this year is coaching. count the number of tackles that ron dayne breaks on every play, and the number of times carr is hit as he's throwing. those two guys are playing as hard as anybody in football and being successful. kubiak's getting every ounce he can from that line and it's a hair's breathe from being disastrous. congrats to the offense for gutting it out all day and getting the win, but it's obvious that our biggest (probably ONLY) problem on offense is still that line. i look forward to next season when we get spencer back, flanagan with a year here under his belt, and some replacements for that right side.
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I'm officially wrong about Dayne and am gald he's a Texan. Right now, he is really the only guy on our roster who can run in this zone blocking scheme. He's not great of probably even good. But he knows where to run, wheras our other RBs don't.

But our running game has to get better overall. That Oline just isn't getting it done.
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Carr's playfake touchdown score was AWSOME !!! I stood up and screamed *OWNED!!!!*

A big reason that play worked was because of the threat of the run...We didnt run the ball terribly well, but it was enough to get the job done...I like the way Dayne runs over people and he's a pretty good blocker...Losing DD this season really hurt this offence, but they have done a good job filling his shoes with some power runners who can block and catch.
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No blocking and Slow running backs... that is 2 huge problems.
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I'm officially wrong about Dayne and am gald he's a Texan. Right now, he is really the only guy on our roster who can run in this zone blocking scheme. He's not great of probably even good. But he knows where to run, wheras our other RBs don't.
I might say "he is really the only guy left on our roster who can run in this zone blocking scheme".

I am still not convinced we made a lot of good moves with our running backs after training camp.
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I am wondering some about the hybrid Denver style zone block mixed with the Green Bay Power I stuff.

Part of the effectiveness Denver blocking is that the running from that is supposed to set up the pass because the blocking always looks the same.

Hmmm.

I do not like our options at left tackle. I do not like Eric Winston not being activated when it is Salaam and Bedell. Just from what I saw at the game, and not watching the TV stuff, the left side looks non-good.

I liked Seth Wand more in the preseason, you know, back when they could run the ball.

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I liked Seth Wand more in the preseason, you know, back when they could run the ball.
seth wand (to me atleast) looked like he picked up the ZBS that kubiak runs quicker than any other linemen. we ran the ball more effectively to the left side during preseason when he was in the game than we did with spencer. he's also a lot quicker than our other options and can pick off linebackers effectively. he'd be a major upgrade over salaam, and bedell is lucky to be on a team at all.
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If Dayne gets past the line of scrimmage, he's a force.

I noticed this today. If he gets to, or past, the line of scrimmage...and without getting his feet tangled up with blockers or d linemen...he is good for about 5 yards every time. The momentum he builds is amazing.

So while it is frustrating to sometimes see him take a nosedive for one-yard gains, you gotta' think about the times he gets free of the line of scrimmage and has flat out carried defenders or bulldozed them for extra yards.

DD would pick his way around and get all "choppy" for the extra yards, but Dayne is a different creature.

And Gado is nowhere to be seen. Gonna' take awhile to get used to the playbook, or an injury to Dayne, for him to sniff carries IMO.
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We need to find a better RB this next off-season for sure, but our run blocking has been pretty shiesty as well. It's going to take a while for this group to gel and really pick up this zone blocking scheme. The sooner the better. I think we'll have a decent running game in place by the end of the year.
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