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TexansSeminole · 09-30-2006

The Notre Dame safety was not good at all today. I can pretty much rule him out for safeties i would bring on this team.

**PapaL** · 09-30-2006

So because he had a sub-par day we should not look at him??

WildBlackBear32 · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by LCROD

So because he had a sub-par day we should not look at him??

He's subpar in general. He's Roy Williams without the speed and athletic ability and even less ability to cover. He'd be virtually unknown if he didnt play at Notre Dame and was a pro boxer.

**Farough** · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by WildBlackBear32

He's subpar in general. He's Roy Williams without the speed and athletic ability and even less ability to cover. He'd be virtually unknown if he didnt play at Notre Dame and was a pro boxer.

How can you say he has no speed? That right there tells me you've never seen him play.

Reddevil63 · 09-30-2006

He's fast, he just hasnt had a good season so far. Ive noticed him fumbling alot on punt returns and taking bad routes to tackles.

**Farough** · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Reddevil63

He's fast, he just hasnt had a good season so far. Ive noticed him fumbling alot on punt returns and taking bad routes to tackles.

The reason he was fumbling the punts those 2 weeks, no excused but, every punter he received a punt from before had been right footed. And 2 weeks in a row he had faced a left footed punter, which would give you a different spin on the ball. He wasn't able to practice for this too well because his punter is also right footed.

**Farough** · 09-30-2006

But I do agree with you on his angles, he missed I recall at least 4 today that he misjudged, leading to a long Purdue touchdown. But thats something that can be improved, I wouldn't mind if we picked him up. But we won't... we need a FS more and he plays SS.

Reddevil63 · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Farough

The reason he was fumbling the punts those 2 weeks, no excused but, every punter he received a punt from before had been right footed. And 2 weeks in a row he had faced a left footed punter, which would give you a different spin on the ball. He wasn't able to practice for this too well because his punter is also right footed.

I wasnt aware that had an impact on the grip of the ball after you tuck it and run

**Farough** · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Reddevil63

I wasnt aware that had an impact on the grip of the ball after you tuck it and run

I figured you meant his 2 or 3 muffed punts.. other than those I think he's only had 1 fumble while running

painekiller · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by Farough

The reason he was fumbling the punts those 2 weeks, no excused but, every punter he received a punt from before had been right footed. And 2 weeks in a row he had faced a left footed punter, which would give you a different spin on the ball. He wasn't able to practice for this too well because his punter is also right footed.

The jugs machine they use to practice with can be set either way.

**Farough** · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by painekiller

The jugs machine they use to practice with can be set either way.

It still doesn't give the full effect of an actual punter. I read the press conference transscript from the Penn State game with Charlie Weis and Tom Zbikowski and thats what they said. So thats what I'm going by.

WildBlackBear32 · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by Farough

How can you say he has no speed? That right there tells me you've never seen him play.

Or that I'm not a homer. Whatever works for you though.

If you weren't biased, you'd realize it too. Members of the Blue and Gold nation everywhere want him benched for his blown coverage. It's been huge discussion since week two.

kastofsna · 10-01-2006

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Or that I'm not a homer. Whatever works for you though.

If you weren't biased, you'd realize it too. Members of the Blue and Gold nation everywhere want him benched for his blown coverage. It's been huge discussion since week two.

he's got plenty of speed.

Goldeagle · 10-01-2006

I was looking at this guy considering Ive wanted a safety for 2 years now, and yeah; he is a LB in the NFL

TexansCanes · 10-01-2006

he does have a lot of speed, but i just don't think he is that good. the media has to hype up someone on that notre dame defense and he is the best they got, doesn't mean he is that good.

WildBlackBear32 · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by kastofsna

he's got plenty of speed.

Faster than Roy Williams?

TexansCanes · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by WildBlackBear32

Faster than Roy Williams?

he ran a few sub 11's in high school when he ran track, should run in the low 4.4's during his workouts. if he was that slow he wouldn't be running back punts. I would say they are about the same.

10-01-2006

I never liked zibikowski.....He is not athletic at all....He is a decent hitter...Will probably be a 3rd or 4th rounder....will be a good special teamer in the NFL....

TexansSeminole · 10-01-2006

From what I have seen, he is somewhat athletic and is good in north and south run support, but really has problems in coverage and angles.

kastofsna · 10-04-2006

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I never liked zibikowski.....He is not athletic at all

what

09-30-2006	#1
TexansSeminole Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 25 Posts: 6,871 Rep Power: 10437	That Notre Dame Safety The Notre Dame safety was not good at all today. I can pretty much rule him out for safeties i would bring on this team.

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PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,631 Rep Power: 16635	Re: That Notre Dame Safety So because he had a sub-par day we should not look at him?? __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

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Reddevil63 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arlington Age: 28 Posts: 1,253 Rep Power: 12	Re: That Notre Dame Safety He's fast, he just hasnt had a good season so far. Ive noticed him fumbling alot on punt returns and taking bad routes to tackles. __________________ Keep Kevin Kolb in Houston in '07

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Farough Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Age: 25 Posts: 843 Rep Power: 470	Re: That Notre Dame Safety But I do agree with you on his angles, he missed I recall at least 4 today that he misjudged, leading to a long Purdue touchdown. But thats something that can be improved, I wouldn't mind if we picked him up. But we won't... we need a FS more and he plays SS. __________________

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Goldeagle Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spring Age: 40 Posts: 1,816 Rep Power: 11	Re: That Notre Dame Safety I was looking at this guy considering Ive wanted a safety for 2 years now, and yeah; he is a LB in the NFL

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TexansCanes All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: LSU Age: 26 Posts: 600 Rep Power: 10	Re: That Notre Dame Safety he does have a lot of speed, but i just don't think he is that good. the media has to hype up someone on that notre dame defense and he is the best they got, doesn't mean he is that good. __________________ "He's a bad dude, I'd like to have him in our arsenal. I'd never run the ball."

10-01-2006	#18
real Guest Posts: n/a	Re: That Notre Dame Safety I never liked zibikowski.....He is not athletic at all....He is a decent hitter...Will probably be a 3rd or 4th rounder....will be a good special teamer in the NFL....

10-01-2006	#19
TexansSeminole Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 25 Posts: 6,871 Rep Power: 10437	Re: That Notre Dame Safety From what I have seen, he is somewhat athletic and is good in north and south run support, but really has problems in coverage and angles.

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