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**Texans_Chick** · 09-25-2006

Did any of y'all hear Lance Z this morning talking about the Texans defensive line rotation? I asked them to audiovault it, it was so blasted funny, because a lot of time funny reveals painful truths.

To describe it doesn't do it justice. He basically mimics what it sounds like having 300 lb men sprint on and off the field in order to "stay fresh."

(Un?)fortunately, I forgot to TiVO the game, so I don't have a true notion of the rotation, but I found myself wondering why certain guys were playing the line at certain times.

I know the Denver line rotated a lot because they play in altitude. Did anyone here pay particular attention to the rotation of dlinemen?

thunderkyss · 09-25-2006

Not even Denver swap DLinemen on every play....... which we appear to do.

then the plays that you want your starters fresh for..... when we are trying to get a stop in the fourth Quarter.... they're on the sideline(except for Payne)....

it didn't make any sense.

**infantrycak** · 09-25-2006

The DL rotation is beyond stupid. Plus the substitutions are coming in so slow our 300 lb DLmen are getting a break by sprinting 25 yds to the sideline. It's almost as stupid as having Dexter McCleon try to cover someone--good hits after the reception don't count.

Scott747 · 09-25-2006

The rotations did not seem to be the real problem. It was when they were being called, which shows a lack of preparation by the coaches.

The D-line was exerting more energy getting on and off the field than when the ball was snapped. Never thought about it being that much of a factor, but in hindsight a few seconds for the big fellas to catch their breath may in fact be a reason for the lack of push.

And yes I'm grasping for any excuse....

JustBonee · 09-25-2006

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Did any of y'all hear Lance Z this morning talking about the Texans defensive line rotation? I asked them to audiovault it..

I heard it, and laughed so hard my side was aching!! That was absolutely the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
They going to audio vault it? Sure hope so. Maybe they'll play it again tomorrow morning... we need the entertainment.

**texasguy346** · 09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

The DL rotation is beyond stupid. Plus the substitutions are coming in so slow our 300 lb DLmen are getting a break by sprinting 25 yds to the sideline. It's almost as stupid as having Dexter McCleon try to cover someone--good hits after the reception don't count.

Yeah just another head scratcher courtesy of the defense. As for the DL rotation I recall on one of the plays near the goalline they had Payne sprinting in at the last minute, but I recall several times where the DLine barely got set before the snap. We all know what happened after the snap.

On the DL rotation bit that Lance & Co. did I found it very funny.

profan · 09-26-2006

One of the funniest things i heard. Got me out of my foul mood and really got a good laugh at that one.

JDizzle · 09-26-2006

I heard that too .... had me in stiches, especially when he started talking about PUP'd players getting confused and subbing. Good stuff.

**Vinny** · 09-26-2006

hilarious stuff, he just slays me sometimes....his Comrade blast this morning was even funnier. Those Washington Capitalist pigs beaming down holographic images on Mario making him think that he was being triple teamed was funny as hell. The Texans are installing jammers this week so the Dolphins won't do the same thing.

TheOgre · 09-26-2006

This isn't Denver. Put guys in a series at a time (except for situational substitutes). Replace a guy before a series if you want him to stay "fresh".

Thomas Johnson should be cut just on principle alone. He had two inexcusable penalties.

**Vinny** · 09-26-2006

He's more active than Mario and looks harder to block.

the wonger need food · 09-26-2006

That was the funniest thing I've ever heard from Lance. It wouldn't have been so funny if it wasn't true.

If they vault it, please post a link.

dat_boy_yec · 09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

This isn't Denver. Put guys in a series at a time (except for situational substitutes). Replace a guy before a series if you want him to stay "fresh".

Thomas Johnson should be cut just on principle alone. He had two inexcusable penalties.

Yet, he's been the best looking DLineman we have.

dantem · 09-26-2006

I noticed that during the game (my seats are up in the 600's around the 20 yard line) Everything seems to move slower from that angle and you really notice the formation changes. I could swear Seth payne sprinted over 300 yards in the first half, there were times where two guys would run out and then get waived back after they reached the line, those guys had to be winded. Many times they either barely got off the field in time or they reached thier stance just as the ball was snapped. Being winded and disoriented just as the ball is snapped is not a good strategy.

**edo783** · 09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by dantem

Being winded and disoriented just as the ball is snapped is not a good strategy.

Major understatment, but very true.

**Vinny** · 09-26-2006

It's our vaunted Chinese Fire Drill Defense!

MightyTExan · 09-26-2006

I was at the game.
The defense looked lost and scrambling to get set before the play from the first defensive play. I don't even want to mention the substitutions. One question I have is about the formations. Why are they so spread so far apart? Even at the goal line?

dantem · 09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by MightyTExan

I was at the game.
The defense looked lost and scrambling to get set before the play from the first defensive play. I don't even want to mention the substitutions. One question I have is about the formations. Why are they so spread so far apart? Even at the goal line?

I wondered the same thing, I also kept seeing our corners playing 10 yards back from the recievers on 3rd and short. I'm not trained in defensive scheems but it seemed strange.

Tulip · 09-26-2006

I had tears coming out of my eyes. The whole bit was so painfully and truthfully funny.

09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

This isn't Denver. Put guys in a series at a time (except for situational substitutes). Replace a guy before a series if you want him to stay "fresh".

Thomas Johnson should be cut just on principle alone. He had two inexcusable penalties.

I thought so as well but upon reflection that guy has been the baddest man on the line up to this point. He's got a little Leon Lett in him. Channel it, don't cut it. He does it again, cut him. Right now I am thinking maybe clone him?

09-25-2006	#1
Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,981 Rep Power: 24189	Defensive Line Rotation Did any of y'all hear Lance Z this morning talking about the Texans defensive line rotation? I asked them to audiovault it, it was so blasted funny, because a lot of time funny reveals painful truths. To describe it doesn't do it justice. He basically mimics what it sounds like having 300 lb men sprint on and off the field in order to "stay fresh." (Un?)fortunately, I forgot to TiVO the game, so I don't have a true notion of the rotation, but I found myself wondering why certain guys were playing the line at certain times. I know the Denver line rotated a lot because they play in altitude. Did anyone here pay particular attention to the rotation of dlinemen? __________________ More on the Texans? Please check TexansChick Hou Chronicle Blog & AOL Sports-Texans FanHouse & Twitter @StephStradley

09-25-2006	#3
infantrycak Lead Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 45 Posts: 37,491 Rep Power: 76601	The DL rotation is beyond stupid. Plus the substitutions are coming in so slow our 300 lb DLmen are getting a break by sprinting 25 yds to the sideline. It's almost as stupid as having Dexter McCleon try to cover someone--good hits after the reception don't count. __________________ The Art of War

09-26-2006	#9
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	hilarious stuff, he just slays me sometimes....his Comrade blast this morning was even funnier. Those Washington Capitalist pigs beaming down holographic images on Mario making him think that he was being triple teamed was funny as hell. The Texans are installing jammers this week so the Dolphins won't do the same thing. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

09-26-2006	#10
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	This isn't Denver. Put guys in a series at a time (except for situational substitutes). Replace a guy before a series if you want him to stay "fresh". Thomas Johnson should be cut just on principle alone. He had two inexcusable penalties. __________________ "...the Texans select...Adrian Peterson, RB, University of Oklahoma."

09-26-2006	#11
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	He's more active than Mario and looks harder to block. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

09-25-2006	#2
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,756 Rep Power: 51540	Not even Denver swap DLinemen on every play....... which we appear to do. then the plays that you want your starters fresh for..... when we are trying to get a stop in the fourth Quarter.... they're on the sideline(except for Payne).... it didn't make any sense.

09-25-2006	#4
Scott747 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 46 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 8	The rotations did not seem to be the real problem. It was when they were being called, which shows a lack of preparation by the coaches. The D-line was exerting more energy getting on and off the field than when the ball was snapped. Never thought about it being that much of a factor, but in hindsight a few seconds for the big fellas to catch their breath may in fact be a reason for the lack of push. And yes I'm grasping for any excuse....

09-26-2006	#7
profan Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 368 Rep Power: 10	One of the funniest things i heard. Got me out of my foul mood and really got a good laugh at that one.

09-26-2006	#8
JDizzle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,842 Rep Power: 1891	I heard that too .... had me in stiches, especially when he started talking about PUP'd players getting confused and subbing. Good stuff.

09-26-2006	#12
the wonger need food Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston Age: 43 Posts: 2,534 Rep Power: 1085	That was the funniest thing I've ever heard from Lance. It wouldn't have been so funny if it wasn't true. If they vault it, please post a link.

09-26-2006	#14
dantem Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 8	I noticed that during the game (my seats are up in the 600's around the 20 yard line) Everything seems to move slower from that angle and you really notice the formation changes. I could swear Seth payne sprinted over 300 yards in the first half, there were times where two guys would run out and then get waived back after they reached the line, those guys had to be winded. Many times they either barely got off the field in time or they reached thier stance just as the ball was snapped. Being winded and disoriented just as the ball is snapped is not a good strategy.

09-26-2006	#17
MightyTExan It's go time! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 787 Rep Power: 4036	I was at the game. The defense looked lost and scrambling to get set before the play from the first defensive play. I don't even want to mention the substitutions. One question I have is about the formations. Why are they so spread so far apart? Even at the goal line?

09-26-2006	#19
Tulip Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 1,864 Rep Power: 13	I had tears coming out of my eyes. The whole bit was so painfully and truthfully funny. __________________ Addition by subtraction

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