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ATX · 09-19-2004

just saw DD fumble again. dude, hold on to the rock.

Blake · 09-19-2004

I think he needs some time to think about this. Take him out. Put in Wells, and open up the passing game. 4 is unexcusable.

Grid · 09-19-2004

As far as im concerned.. I think DD needs to ride the pine till he learns how to hold the ball.

Im a HUGE DD fan.. but you cannot have a RB that is gonna drop the ball twice every game.. not unless he gets 400 all purpose yards too.

DD now officially stands for "double drops"

keyfro · 09-19-2004

i see hollings starting next week

ATX · 09-19-2004

i agree totally. i think if hollings was playing today, they would have put him in.

Fiddy · 09-19-2004

read my signature...

ATX · 09-19-2004

7 turnovers in the first 2 games. this is gonna be a long season.

Nerf Herder · 09-19-2004

Can Davis put anything sticky on his glove, to make things a little easier?

Marcus · 09-19-2004

It has gotten to the point that, no matter how many yards Davis gets on either a running play or pass play . . . if the whole time that I'm watching him, I'm doing nothing but wondering if he's going to fumble it again . . well, that's no fun.

Turnovers mean everything to me. I consider the takeway/giveaway ratio to be more important than most be people do.

I blame Davis for these two losses. And now he's got a reputation as a fumbler that the other teams exploit when gameplanning.

As for Capers benching him, he should do that. He benched Jonathan Wells for coughing it a couple years ago, so I would expect Capers to be more consistant with his policy regarding fumbles. Now, I suppose some would say that by benching Davis, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Or a better anology would be a parent grounding a misbehaving teenager . . . you'd be grounding yourself more than the teenager.

But sorry, right now, if you give me a choice between a fumbling Davis, and a non-fumbling Wells . . . I'm gonna have to take Wells.

texansfan88 · 09-19-2004

well he's gonna be playing the rest of the year so can i have your season tickets? i dont need fair weather fans sitting around me

Marcus · 09-19-2004

What's this about fair-weather fans. I didn't say that I would not watch the team. I just don't want Davis in the lineup anymore.

RTP2110 · 09-19-2004

yea didn't we bench Mack after 1 fumble last year?

Fiddy · 09-19-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

But sorry, right now, if you give me a choice between a fumbling Davis, and a non-fumbling Wells . . . I'm gonna have to take Wells.

How about we start a game breaking RB who hasnt fumbled since the first week of the Preseason...

And I am serious...

Wolf · 09-19-2004

I am sure Capers will be working on the butterfingers of Davis.

Yes, Turnovers are a big thing in the NFL. The NFL is a game of momentum and TO kill that. We have given up 14 points each week so far on TO's.. Hard to win in this league when you give up field position..

281 · 09-19-2004

88, do us all a favor and shut the hell up... You obviously have NO idea what a fairweather fan is. It's called "venting". Unlike you, Mr. "Rah-rah, sis-boom bah, YAY! We lost!" , we are angry. Sure it's kind of a childish thing to do, but it's natural. It'll pass, give it time. Marcus isn't dumping the team, he's just stating the obvious: Davis is a fumbling machine right now. Hell, the way things are going, I wouldn't be too sure he'll be starting all season. He's on pace for 32 fumbles.

Marcus · 09-19-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiddy

How about we start a game breaking RB who hasnt fumbled since the first week of the Preseason...

And I am serious...

I know Fiddy, I know. I was one of those guys that jumped all over Hollings for coughing it up during the pre-season. And I agree with you Hollings should get the start next Sunday.

But I have to admit (and believe me I HATE having to admit this) Davis is still out best running back, fumbles included. I just can't watch him anymore, if all I'm doing is saying to myself, "Don't fumble it again, don't fumble it again." That sucks!

jacquescas · 09-19-2004

Davis is on pace to have 2600+ yds from scrimmage and 32 fumbles...

HJam72 · 09-19-2004

Bring on Hollings! Runningbacks tend to be here today and gone tomorrow, anyway. Denver spits out star runningbacks like they were ....what--DD's fur-balls. Let Hollings prove that it's the O-line that might be getting DD the yardage, anyway, and that HE WON'T fumble, like DD. Even if Hollings stays hurt, I say give it to Wells. It's time he had another chance. When those guys screw up next year, after proving their better this year, we'll give Double Drop another chance to prove he can hold on to the ball. Talent is one thing. Winning is what actually matters. Don' count on it, but I can see this team winning against KC WITH TONY HOLLINGS.

compy75 · 09-19-2004

Now I understand the disdain after DD's fumbles today but let's be fair here. He has been completely overworked. Look at his touches compared to ANYONE in the league. He had 25 carries and 11 catches today alone. As for the fact that the turnovers cost us 14 points aren't we stretching it out a little bit.

His first fumble they failed to score.

His second fumble, they MARCHED 79 yards. Sure it's easy to scapegoat a guy who has fumbled FOUR times in two games but lets be fair here. Last season, no one could run behind this line. Mack's benching maybe blamed on his fumble, but reality is that everyone was gaining 2.9 ypg behind our line. DD averaged 4.4. It's one thing to say his fumbling is a huge problem, it's another to blame the loss on them. Last week, I can understand a bit. This week, no it wasn't the fumbling.

Fiddy · 09-19-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by compy75

Now I understand the disdain after DD's fumbles today but let's be fair here. He has been completely overworked. Look at his touches compared to ANYONE in the league. He had 25 carries and 11 catches today alone. As for the fact that the turnovers cost us 14 points aren't we stretching it out a little bit.

His first fumble they failed to score.

His second fumble, they MARCHED 79 yards. Sure it's easy to scapegoat a guy who has fumbled FOUR times in two games but lets be fair here. Last season, no one could run behind this line. Mack's benching maybe blamed on his fumble, but reality is that everyone was gaining 2.9 ypg behind our line. DD averaged 4.4. It's one thing to say his fumbling is a huge problem, it's another to blame the loss on them. Last week, I can understand a bit. This week, no it wasn't the fumbling.

well, everyone on the board thought that DD was going to lead the league in rushing and be the next LT and he thought he was going to get 2000 yards so he has to work. And the worst thing about turnovers it not that they score, but that we dont have the chance to score. We could have gotten 14 points off his two fumbles. Mack was gaining 2.9 ypc last year because he was running with turf toe. DD found plenty of holes last year and Mack ran just fine in the first couple of games. If Davis doesnt fumble late against SD, we could tie it up and win in OT. If Davis doesnt fumble a 2nd time today, we can score 7 points and not give up 7 points. DD is a big reason for the loss....

09-19-2004	#1
ATX Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin Age: 33 Posts: 9,563 Rep Power: 143	DD, hold the rock just saw DD fumble again. dude, hold on to the rock.

09-19-2004	#2
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,608 Rep Power: 15288	4 fumbles. Take him out. I think he needs some time to think about this. Take him out. Put in Wells, and open up the passing game. 4 is unexcusable. __________________

09-19-2004	#3
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Take DD out of the game, he cant start As far as im concerned.. I think DD needs to ride the pine till he learns how to hold the ball. Im a HUGE DD fan.. but you cannot have a RB that is gonna drop the ball twice every game.. not unless he gets 400 all purpose yards too. DD now officially stands for "double drops"

09-19-2004	#4
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	i see hollings starting next week __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

09-19-2004	#6
Fiddy Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Age: 25 Posts: 4,314 Rep Power: 17	read my signature... __________________ 'Anyone ready to go outside so I can make you look bad?' - Matt Schaub talking to the DBs

09-19-2004	#7
ATX Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin Age: 33 Posts: 9,563 Rep Power: 143	Once again, turnovers cost us the game 7 turnovers in the first 2 games. this is gonna be a long season.

09-19-2004	#8
Nerf Herder Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In a gutter Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Can Davis put anything sticky on his glove, to make things a little easier?

09-19-2004	#9
Marcus Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Stafford, Texas Age: 59 Posts: 6,816 Rep Power: 19339	I can't watch DD anymore . . . sorry! It has gotten to the point that, no matter how many yards Davis gets on either a running play or pass play . . . if the whole time that I'm watching him, I'm doing nothing but wondering if he's going to fumble it again . . well, that's no fun. Turnovers mean everything to me. I consider the takeway/giveaway ratio to be more important than most be people do. I blame Davis for these two losses. And now he's got a reputation as a fumbler that the other teams exploit when gameplanning. As for Capers benching him, he should do that. He benched Jonathan Wells for coughing it a couple years ago, so I would expect Capers to be more consistant with his policy regarding fumbles. Now, I suppose some would say that by benching Davis, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Or a better anology would be a parent grounding a misbehaving teenager . . . you'd be grounding yourself more than the teenager. But sorry, right now, if you give me a choice between a fumbling Davis, and a non-fumbling Wells . . . I'm gonna have to take Wells.

09-19-2004	#10
texansfan88 All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 880 Rep Power: 0	well he's gonna be playing the rest of the year so can i have your season tickets? i dont need fair weather fans sitting around me

09-19-2004	#12
RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1845	yea didn't we bench Mack after 1 fumble last year?

09-19-2004	#14
Wolf 100% Texan Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kerrville Age: 43 Posts: 35,906 Rep Power: 41330	I am sure Capers will be working on the butterfingers of Davis. Yes, Turnovers are a big thing in the NFL. The NFL is a game of momentum and TO kill that. We have given up 14 points each week so far on TO's.. Hard to win in this league when you give up field position.. __________________ Finding out alcohol was a depressant made me question science

09-19-2004	#15
281 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,459 Rep Power: 1094	88, do us all a favor and shut the hell up... You obviously have NO idea what a fairweather fan is. It's called "venting". Unlike you, Mr. "Rah-rah, sis-boom bah, YAY! We lost!" , we are angry. Sure it's kind of a childish thing to do, but it's natural. It'll pass, give it time. Marcus isn't dumping the team, he's just stating the obvious: Davis is a fumbling machine right now. Hell, the way things are going, I wouldn't be too sure he'll be starting all season. He's on pace for 32 fumbles. __________________ "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." -Ben Franklin

09-19-2004	#17
jacquescas Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 11	Davis is on pace to have 2600+ yds from scrimmage and 32 fumbles...

09-19-2004	#18
HJam72 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over here. Age: 40 Posts: 10,521 Rep Power: 18935	Sit him down. Bring on Hollings! Runningbacks tend to be here today and gone tomorrow, anyway. Denver spits out star runningbacks like they were ....what--DD's fur-balls. Let Hollings prove that it's the O-line that might be getting DD the yardage, anyway, and that HE WON'T fumble, like DD. Even if Hollings stays hurt, I say give it to Wells. It's time he had another chance. When those guys screw up next year, after proving their better this year, we'll give Double Drop another chance to prove he can hold on to the ball. Talent is one thing. Winning is what actually matters. Don' count on it, but I can see this team winning against KC WITH TONY HOLLINGS.

09-19-2004	#19
compy75 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Now I understand the disdain after DD's fumbles today but let's be fair here. He has been completely overworked. Look at his touches compared to ANYONE in the league. He had 25 carries and 11 catches today alone. As for the fact that the turnovers cost us 14 points aren't we stretching it out a little bit. His first fumble they failed to score. His second fumble, they MARCHED 79 yards. Sure it's easy to scapegoat a guy who has fumbled FOUR times in two games but lets be fair here. Last season, no one could run behind this line. Mack's benching maybe blamed on his fumble, but reality is that everyone was gaining 2.9 ypg behind our line. DD averaged 4.4. It's one thing to say his fumbling is a huge problem, it's another to blame the loss on them. Last week, I can understand a bit. This week, no it wasn't the fumbling.

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