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texanfan · 09-21-2004

The texans activated Murphy today, Starling cut.

**scourge** · 09-21-2004

anyone have an idea why? he seemed to be a pretty decent gunner and not too bad of a receiver either...

Bill's/TexanFan · 09-21-2004

Most likely one of the other 31 teams tried to sign Murphy....that's what normally happens then the only choice is to activate him or allow him to sign with the other team.

nunusguy · 09-21-2004

This dosen't sound encouraging for Joppru's activation after PUP.

TexanExile · 09-21-2004

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

This dosen't sound encouraging for Joppru's activation after PUP.

Exactly what I was thinking...big-time red flag for Joppru. You know, at least Charles Rogers played in a game or two before he flamed out. Sad.

Fiddy · 09-21-2004

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

This dosen't sound encouraging for Joppru's activation after PUP.

I dont think it has anything to do with Joppru, because we cant activate him till week 6 anyways. The reason we activated Murphy was because both our TEs are banged up so the Texans need one in case Bruener and/or Miller is unable to play...

Grid · 09-21-2004

Interesting that we cut starling. I figured we were high on him during preseason and would want to hold onto him and see what he could do.. but he never even played a down I think.

Oh well.. I guess back to back losses to two dismal teams can make you rethink your stance on things.

SBTexans08 · 09-22-2004

Is this true??? eek:

So Joppru had been hurt for quite some time now so they had to let him go having to sign another TE to the practice squad and released K. Starling to make room. With Houston's luck....Starling is going to another team and be a star. Why let him go and not someone else!!! OMG!!!

Here is the link

P.S. I edited since I had my info wrong. The Ogre was right....

TheOgre · 09-22-2004

Isn't Joppru on the PUP list? If so he cannot be activated until at least week 6.

SBTexans08 · 09-22-2004

I hate to see Starling go........damnit!!

09-22-2004

If you've seen the latest rash of TE injuries I think that It was a smart move to snatch up Murphy before another teams adds them to their roster.

Meloy · 09-22-2004

Ok, somebody explain why Starling did not go on practice squad? I know he must pass waivers to do so. Is that possible? We seem to have a difficult time keeping TEs healthy.

rjf · 09-23-2004

Just to clarify the situation, BTF is right.

The move was not made because of bad news/thoughts on Joppru, or even Starling. What happened was that someone(team) tried to sign Murphy off of our practice squad. We then had to sign Murphy to our active squad to keep from losing him. It was Murphy's choice between the team who tried to sign him, and us. Guess he likes the situation here. (FYI-This info came from one of the local tv stations sports-can't remember which one).

I'm glad that Kendrick cleared waivers.

**edo783** · 09-23-2004

Pretty much a win all the way around to me. Murphy may wind up being more valulable than another WR given the Joppru issue. Seemed to play well in preseason, but that was just preseason, so time will tell.

**Vinny** · 09-23-2004

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Originally Posted by rjf

Just to clarify the situation, BTF is right.

The move was not made because of bad news/thoughts on Joppru, or even Starling. What happened was that someone(team) tried to sign Murphy off of our practice squad. We then had to sign Murphy to our active squad to keep from losing him. It was Murphy's choice between the team who tried to sign him, and us. Guess he likes the situation here. (FYI-This info came from one of the local tv stations sports-can't remember which one).

I'm glad that Kendrick cleared waivers.

I could be wrong but I do not think that it is Murphy's choice. The team gets the opportunity to move him to our roster or lose him to the team offering him a roster spot. I don't think Murphy has any say.

texanfan · 09-23-2004

Sports Radio said that it was the cowboys trying to sign Matt Murphy, maybe he should be playing more for the Texans if Parcells see something in him.

aj. · 09-23-2004

The practice squad player is free to negotiate a contract with any other team so if he is claimed, it really does come down to the player and his agent's decision since the original team's "counter claim" doesn't automatically veto the original claim and can't stop the player from leaving. If he really wanted out of here, he could have gone. Most of the time it comes down like it did with Murphy, that the original team tells the claimed p.s. player (if they really like him) to "stay with us - because you're familiar with this system and we'll promote you to our 53 for at least 3 games - you'll, have more opportunity here and make the same amount of money, yadda yadda yadda" - and the player stays - because of the familiar surroundings and the fact that the money is the same. It's like a call in poker but the original team isn't guaranteed the winning hand because the player holds the river ace. Now if there was some sentimental connection between the claiming team and the player - or some other reason why the player didn't want to stay - he could still bolt. At least that's the way I understand it.

I have a feeling you will see a TE package put in this week where one of the TE's will make one or two fairly long catches down the middle of the field - splitting the two-deep safety zones (or at least there will be attempts to do this). They will also be looking for the TE a bit more this week to lessen the load on DD if Hollings can't go again.

Nawzer · 09-23-2004

Man I really liked Starling..why didn't they cut Sloan Thomas or someone else instead?

**texasguy346** · 09-23-2004

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Originally Posted by Nawzer

Man I really liked Starling..why didn't they cut Sloan Thomas or someone else instead?

I don't believe Sloan Thomas was on the active roster. They had to clear a spot for Murphy, and Starling was the man to go. The good news is that he is on our practice squad, and he didn't land with another team.

texanfan · 09-23-2004

I thought Sloan was on the practice squad already?

09-21-2004	#1
texanfan Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 36 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Matt Murphy Activated The texans activated Murphy today, Starling cut.

09-21-2004	#2
scourge Digression King Join Date: May 2004 Location: stealth ghetto Age: 35 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 2290	Why was Starling cut? anyone have an idea why? he seemed to be a pretty decent gunner and not too bad of a receiver either...

09-22-2004	#8
SBTexans08 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 3rd Coast Age: 33 Posts: 677 Rep Power: 10	I just got word that we cut K. Starling Is this true??? eek: So Joppru had been hurt for quite some time now so they had to let him go having to sign another TE to the practice squad and released K. Starling to make room. With Houston's luck....Starling is going to another team and be a star. Why let him go and not someone else!!! OMG!!! Here is the link P.S. I edited since I had my info wrong. The Ogre was right.... __________________ MY XBOX 360 GAMER PROFILE Last edited by SBTexans08; 09-22-2004 at 10:47 AM.

09-22-2004	#10
SBTexans08 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 3rd Coast Age: 33 Posts: 677 Rep Power: 10	I hate to see Starling go........damnit!! __________________ MY XBOX 360 GAMER PROFILE

09-23-2004	#14
edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Pretty much a win all the way around to me. Murphy may wind up being more valulable than another WR given the Joppru issue. Seemed to play well in preseason, but that was just preseason, so time will tell. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

09-21-2004	#3
Bill's/TexanFan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 56 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Most likely one of the other 31 teams tried to sign Murphy....that's what normally happens then the only choice is to activate him or allow him to sign with the other team.

09-21-2004	#4
nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 183	This dosen't sound encouraging for Joppru's activation after PUP.

09-21-2004	#7
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Interesting that we cut starling. I figured we were high on him during preseason and would want to hold onto him and see what he could do.. but he never even played a down I think. Oh well.. I guess back to back losses to two dismal teams can make you rethink your stance on things.

09-22-2004	#9
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Isn't Joppru on the PUP list? If so he cannot be activated until at least week 6.

09-22-2004	#11
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	If you've seen the latest rash of TE injuries I think that It was a smart move to snatch up Murphy before another teams adds them to their roster.

09-22-2004	#12
Meloy Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,834 Rep Power: 12	Ok, somebody explain why Starling did not go on practice squad? I know he must pass waivers to do so. Is that possible? We seem to have a difficult time keeping TEs healthy.

09-23-2004	#13
rjf Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Just to clarify the situation, BTF is right. The move was not made because of bad news/thoughts on Joppru, or even Starling. What happened was that someone(team) tried to sign Murphy off of our practice squad. We then had to sign Murphy to our active squad to keep from losing him. It was Murphy's choice between the team who tried to sign him, and us. Guess he likes the situation here. (FYI-This info came from one of the local tv stations sports-can't remember which one). I'm glad that Kendrick cleared waivers.

09-23-2004	#17
aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	The practice squad player is free to negotiate a contract with any other team so if he is claimed, it really does come down to the player and his agent's decision since the original team's "counter claim" doesn't automatically veto the original claim and can't stop the player from leaving. If he really wanted out of here, he could have gone. Most of the time it comes down like it did with Murphy, that the original team tells the claimed p.s. player (if they really like him) to "stay with us - because you're familiar with this system and we'll promote you to our 53 for at least 3 games - you'll, have more opportunity here and make the same amount of money, yadda yadda yadda" - and the player stays - because of the familiar surroundings and the fact that the money is the same. It's like a call in poker but the original team isn't guaranteed the winning hand because the player holds the river ace. Now if there was some sentimental connection between the claiming team and the player - or some other reason why the player didn't want to stay - he could still bolt. At least that's the way I understand it. I have a feeling you will see a TE package put in this week where one of the TE's will make one or two fairly long catches down the middle of the field - splitting the two-deep safety zones (or at least there will be attempts to do this). They will also be looking for the TE a bit more this week to lessen the load on DD if Hollings can't go again. Last edited by aj.; 09-23-2004 at 12:17 PM.

09-23-2004	#18
Nawzer Alienz Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 30 Posts: 6,082 Rep Power: 14368	Man I really liked Starling..why didn't they cut Sloan Thomas or someone else instead? __________________ Fortune favors the brave NOT the stupid!

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