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View Poll Results: Daniels or Simpson?
Daniels - This guy is our TE of the future and can catch and block with the best. 37 64.91%
Simpson - We already have Joppru, Bruener, and Putzier! 19 33.33%
Someone else entirely 1 1.75%
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Old 09-21-2006   #1
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Default Who would you rather have at this point? Simpson or Daniels?

There was a LOT of complaining when the Texans passed on Ko Simpson for Owen Daniels in the 4th.

Then he started to look good in preseason and got the start.

Then our secondary started being awful.

So who would you rather have at this point? Daniels or Simpson?
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Why does this even matter? We have Daniels, not Simpson. I would rather have Portis over Chester Pitts and Derrick Johnson over TJ but there really isnt any point to what ifs.
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Ko Simpson is an upgrade over who? Micheal Stone?
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Why does this even matter? We have Daniels, not Simpson. I would rather have Portis over Chester Pitts and Derrick Johnson over TJ but there really isnt any point to what ifs.
95% of what's posted on this forum are "what ifs"... i thought you'd be used to it by now
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Where's Ko Simpson starting right now? I haven't heard anything about him, but that doesn't mean he isn't being productive. You probably should put some information up about him if you are going to have a decent comparison. So far I know Owen has done very well, and has at least one touchdown. That's not too bad for a rookie. If he can get one more per game he might set a record. Doubtful, but its still possible.
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Where's Ko Simpson starting right now? I haven't heard anything about him, but that doesn't mean he isn't being productive. You probably should put some information up about him if you are going to have a decent comparison. So far I know Owen has done very well, and has at least one touchdown. That's not too bad for a rookie. If he can get one more per game he might set a record. Doubtful, but its still possible.
With the bills. I think he starts for them.
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95% of what's posted on this forum are "what ifs"... i thought you'd be used to it by now
Pre-draft talk should be what ifs, after the fact what good does it do to sit around and think "what if we had this guy"
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With the bills. I think he starts for them.
I think that was OJ.
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You probably should put some information up about him if you are going to have a decent comparison.
Owen Daniels
Game 1 - no stats
Game 2 - 4 receptions, 45 yds, 1 TD

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Game 1 - 4 solo, 3 assists
Game 2 - 1 solo, 3 assists, 1 sack

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At this point Simpson. I mean c'mon Daniels may be the better pick in the long run, but right now Brown is killing me. Daniels made what a TD, Simpson might have prevented what 2-3 touchdowns. I mean maybe Simpson would have had enough sense not to have just pushed that receiver down in the endzone and have our INT. called back. K.O. might have had enough sense to stay with Stallworth instead of trying to come up and be SS run support. It's only two games in so right now it's not fair, but as of right now, Simpson would be much nicer. I mean tell me secondary hasn't killed us so far.
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we could go back and see who was the best player available in every round of every draft..and talk about how we could have taken them over *insert player*

doesnt make a difference..pointless topic.. and its kinda sleazy too. Like your mother talking about all the kids she could have adopted if she hadnt had you.

Lets show a bit of respect towards our players.
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we could go back and see who was the best player available in every round of every draft..and talk about how we could have taken them over *insert player*

doesnt make a difference..pointless topic.. and its kinda sleazy too. Like your mother talking about all the kids she could have adopted if she hadnt had you.

Lets show a bit of respect towards our players.
Our players will be the first one's to remind you that this is a business. Unfortunately, I think any team loyalty that was once present in the NFL is quickly declining.
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If I were to say as of now, Daniels is our TE of the future and im becoming a LaRon Landry fan very quickly. Like everyone has said however, this thread is nothing more than a hypothetical so it gets the 'pointless' title.
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Our players will be the first one's to remind you that this is a business. Unfortunately, I think any team loyalty that was once present in the NFL is quickly declining.
I disagree.. i talk to alot of fans from alot of other teams.. they arent all big homers like myself ..but team loyalty is still just as prevalent as it was years ago.

And yah..its a business for the players... its a sport and form of entertainment for us. And I bet you $100 bucks that if you go sit in the Texans lockerroom, you wont hear anyone wondering if the team would be better if they had drafted *whoever*.

Partly because its unfair to the players we have, and partly because the past is the past and there is no changing it.. saying "we would have been better off if we had done this" is a pointless exercise. It boils down to whining..and there is nothing constructive or worthwhile about it.
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Ko Simpson was the best player available at the beginning of the 4th round, I thought. Or maybe even Darnell Bing. We had/have a BIG need at safety, and we passed on potential starting safeties, even in the 4th round. Instead, we took a guy who Wisconsin didn't even like enough to make their starting TE. I was mystified at the pick at the time.

Now, that doesn't mean it was a bad pick necessarily, because I knew very little about Daniels, and obviously the Texans took a closer look at him than I did. I feel like I can comment on Mario vs. Reggie better, because I saw a lot of both of them in college.

If I could go back, and I were the GM, of course I'd take Simpson still. Our defense STILL sucks, in case anyone didn't notice. We have Daniels right now though, so I'd love to be wrong about the pick. He did at least have a decent game in Indy.
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I disagree.. i talk to alot of fans from alot of other teams.. they arent all big homers like myself ..but team loyalty is still just as prevalent as it was years ago.

And yah..its a business for the players... its a sport and form of entertainment for us. And I bet you $100 bucks that if you go sit in the Texans lockerroom, you wont hear anyone wondering if the team would be better if they had drafted *whoever*.

Partly because its unfair to the players we have, and partly because the past is the past and there is no changing it.. saying "we would have been better off if we had done this" is a pointless exercise. It boils down to whining..and there is nothing constructive or worthwhile about it.
I wasn't trying to imply team loyalty was down amongst the fans, but the players. I'm also not trying to say that players sit around wondering what if, but more going in the direction that they could probably care less if the fans ask what if. You still hear a few players whine when traded or released, but it's becoming more and more prevalent for them to come out with the, "Well, it's a business....". It has a very calloused aesthetic to it. I just get the impression alot of players in the NFL are just happy to be collecting their paychecks, and don't really mind where they do it from, or if the fans there wish they were someone else. Just my 2 cents.
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The draft has killed us in the past but the jury is still for the 2006 draft .

Today on 610 sports Lance said that Casserly did not have Shawn Merriman on his draft board . CC did not think he could play OLB in a 3-4 .
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Today on 610 sports Lance said that Casserly did not have Shawn Merriman on his draft board . CC did not think he could play OLB in a 3-4 .
I got an audio/visual image while reading your post. It was Casserly in the draft war room wearing a mask of Mr. Burns, from the Simpsons, talking on the phone with the theme music from the movie Halloween in the background.
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What happens if the Chargers pick DJ and the Texans passed on Merriman ... who maybe the best defensive player today .
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I said we need Safety help, and we NEED safety help again! Daniels is a nice player but you had 2 decent veteran TEs and one maybe (Joppru).

I just hope we take a safety with the 2 or 3rd pick of this coming draft or make a big move to bring in a proven safety who has some decent speed and/or can read a defense.
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