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Old 09-18-2006   #1
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Default The Official Start Sage Rosenfels Thread!!!

Well someone had to do it so here it is. And for all you people that say Carr's passing rating is high,

His 2td passes vs. the Colts came in garbage time.
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Well someone had to do it so here it is. And for all you people that say Carr's passing rating is high,

His 2td passes vs. the Colts came in garbage time.
Carr isn't the problem...
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Since Carr's rating is so high I don't think his trade value will get any better. Let's ship him off for a 3rd round pick while we have the chance.
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Carr starts. If Sage put up Carr's numbers yesterday everyone would want Sage to continue to start. Your Rosenfels thread does nothing but instigate the Carr apologists and Carr haters while most of us who actually watch the games want the best players out on the field at their position and right now that is Carr at QB.
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Well someone had to do it so here it is. And for all you people that say Carr's passing rating is high,

His 2td passes vs. the Colts came in garbage time.
Didn't Sage have good preseason games against 2nd and 3rd stringers? We should have just drafted Vince Young because he can't win the fans of those Young supports, of which many are still bitter.
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*yawn* at this thread. been here done that.
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Carr starts. If Sage put up Carr's numbers yesterday everyone would want Sage to continue to start. Your Rosenfels thread does nothing but instigate the Carr apologists and Carr haters while most of us who actually watch the games want the best players out on the field at their position and right now that is Carr at QB.
I'm a season ticket holder I've seen the games, hence the thread. Garbage time can make anyone look good.
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Garbage time can make anyone look good.
Garbage time in HS/College is a lot different than garbage time in the NFL. Answer this question, if Sage put up those numbers would you want him starting again or would you hold garbage time against him?
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Carr isn't the problem...
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I'm a season ticket holder I've seen the games, hence the thread. Garbage time can make anyone look good.
Think again.

Have you seen our defense?
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The optimist in me says DC is totally not the prob, and you can't argue with stats and the stats say DC is completing 75% of his passes and has a higher ypa than Manning.

The pessimist in me says that we all watch the games and DC puts up Steve McNair type numbers, very accurate but it's because of the fact that the ball wasn't thrown 15 yards downfield. Which should I lean toward?

Either way Rosenfels isn't in my mind after week 2, I seem to recall that the Texans made a move after week 2 last year, how did that pan out?
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Well someone had to do it so here it is. And for all you people that say Carr's passing rating is high,

His 2td passes vs. the Colts came in garbage time.
Carr is our man, but he needs to become THE man.
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Garbage time in HS/College is a lot different than garbage time in the NFL. Answer this question, if Sage put up those numbers would you want him starting again or would you hold garbage time against him?
Gotta love the logic. Despite his obvious onfield deficiencies, Carr has looked much improved and is putting up tremendous stats, albeit a few of them in "garbage time."

Yet, Sage put up a similar preseason stat line, purely against 2nd and 3rd teamers, and hey, it's "let's bring in Sage."

That response is all the dignity I'm going to give the original post. I suspect it will be ignored by said poster, DFTW, Napa, and the usual crew.

I also love how anyone with a gripe prefaces it with "I'm a season ticket holder." As if going to the games in person or paying for a product you don't like (should call into question your judgment in the first place) qualifies your negative opinions versus mine or any of the other 60k season ticket holders, many of whom are also on this board and happen to disagree.
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Well someone had to do it so here it is. And for all you people that say Carr's passing rating is high,

His 2td passes vs. the Colts came in garbage time.
Being as you're a season ticket holder & all , I'm sure you've already recognized the error in your original post. It was 3TD passes.
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Carr is our man, but he needs to become THE man.
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Being as you're a season ticket holder & all , I'm sure you've already recognized the error in your original post. It was 3TD passes.
yes but 2 in GARBAGE time nice try
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The "fans" that are calling for SAGE are the same kind of fans that called for "Cody" and "Bucky". Let's see....Moon is in the HOF...and the others...yeah...you get the point.

Having said that, I am NOT saying Carr will be in the HOF. But I am saying that in my opinion CARR and SAGE have 2 completely different levels of upside. I believe WITH protection and patience in the new system, CARR is a pro-bowl caliber QB. I can NOT say the same for Sage.

Do I get frustrated with Carr's performance. Sure. He looked like a ROOKIE yesterday for the majority of the 1st 3 quarters. But calling for Sage just seems like a stretch and a step in the WRONG direction.

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yes but 2 in GARBAGE time nice try
Ever thought that while it was in "garbage" time, that it might just be an indication on what Carr could do if he ever was given some time?

I think Sage is sitting over thinking that those 2nd and 3rd team "no longer in the league" defenses, sure didn't seem that fast.....
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yes but 2 in GARBAGE time nice try
All 3 were in the 4th quarter. At what point does it become garbage time? With the exception of the last drive, looking at the Play by Play on NFL.com, it was mostly starters making the tackles. Nice try.
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