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Old 09-17-2006   #1
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I just finished watching the Tivo of the game 1 play at a time to see how Mario Williams had improved since the first game. I did not notice this stuff during the Game but I thought it was interesting.

Beat = Beat his man and was headed for Manning forcing a quicker throw
Tackle = Tackles
Grasp = Had Manning in his Grasp during the throw
Force = Forced Manning to slide or go out of bounds
Off = Off Sides
Stand = Standing around clueless
Held = Blatantly Held and no Holding Call

1st Quarter - only in on Half of the downs
Beat-2
Held-2

2nd Quarter
Beat-2
Tackle-1
Stand-1

3rd Quarter
Beat-1
Tackle-1
Grasp-3
Force-1
0ff-1
Held-3

4th Quarter
Beat-2
Tackle-1
Force-1

So basically in a game against a very good Offensive line he...

Made 3 Tackles
Beat his man and pressured the QB 7 times
Had the QB in his Grasp 3 times when the ball was released
Forced the QB to slide or out of bounds 2 times
Was off sides 1 time
Was standing around 1 time
Was held 5 times with no call - (happens all the time in the NFL) but shows desperation on the offensive linemanís part

I call that a major leap forward from last week.
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Originally Posted by dantem
I just finished watching the Tivo of the game 1 play at a time to see how Mario Williams had improved since the first game. I did not notice this stuff during the Game but I thought it was interesting.

Beat = Beat his man and was headed for Manning forcing a quicker throw
Tackle = Tackles
Grasp = Had Manning in his Grasp during the throw
Force = Forced Manning to slide or go out of bounds
Off = Off Sides
Stand = Standing around clueless
Held = Blatantly Held and no Holding Call

1st Quarter - only in on Half of the downs
Beat-2
Held-2

2nd Quarter
Beat-2
Tackle-1
Stand-1

3rd Quarter
Beat-1
Tackle-1
Grasp-3
Force-1
0ff-1
Held-3

4th Quarter
Beat-2
Tackle-1
Force-1

So basically in a game against a very good Offensive line he...

Made 3 Tackles
Beat his man and pressured the QB 7 times
Had the QB in his Grasp 3 times when the ball was released
Forced the QB to slide or out of bounds 2 times
Was off sides 1 time
Was standing around 1 time
Was held 5 times with no call - (happens all the time in the NFL) but shows desperation on the offensive linemanís part

I call that a major leap forward from last week.
Finally a broke down analysis of Mario's play thanks... was much needed rather than reading worthless babble from the media.
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I thought Mario looked better this week, but it's nice to have it broken down so succinctly.

Thanks!
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Nice breakdown. I think if they leave him at DE like they did in this game. I believe Brunell will be his first casualty.
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I saw Mario's burst upfield for the first time today . With his strength ... I still think he's going to be a beast .
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from what I saw today he should do well against the average offensive lines, and I am hoping by the end of the season he will be a force. I was really concerned the first game... he looked lost and lazy, but this one was much better.
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i concur... i noticed the improvement as well! how great is TIVO-nice breakdown!
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Nice breakdown. I think if they leave him at DE like they did in this game. I believe Brunell will be his first casualty.
Like the one I just saw on the Dallas game???

muahahaha...!!!!!

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I agree he has gotten better...but at times it seemed he was content on trying to get upfield and rush the passer on a running play and they would run right behind him. Obviously he is a rookie and is not gonna outsmart Peyton Manning, but I hope this isnt because of the pressure on him to get sacks and make plays. He just has to play within himself....and get an inside move..cmon Mario!
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MARIO WILLIAMS SUCKED, ONCE HE PUTS UP 9 SACKS IN A GAME THEN HE WILL BE HALF OF WAT REGGIE BUSH HAS BEEN...REGGIE BUSH HAD 150+ YARDS LAST WEEK... MARIO WILLIAMS ONLY HAD 3 TACKLES? WHAT IS THAT 20 MILLION DOLLARS PER TACKLE? WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN VINCE YOUNG AND PUT HIM BACK THERE WITH DAVID CARR THAT WAY NO ONE COULD KNOW WHICH QB WE ARE USING THAT PLAY!


now my actual response:
i agree, much improvement... i did the same thing but you beat me to it... i just used + and - like our coaches do for our hs team. he would have graded out at 95%... which is very good ... at least in high school... so i thought he improved... he just hasnt made those huge plays yet...those will come.
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MARIO WILLIAMS SUCKED, ONCE HE PUTS UP 9 SACKS IN A GAME THEN HE WILL BE HALF OF WAT REGGIE BUSH HAS BEEN...REGGIE BUSH HAD 150+ YARDS LAST WEEK... MARIO WILLIAMS ONLY HAD 3 TACKLES? WHAT IS THAT 20 MILLION DOLLARS PER TACKLE? WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN VINCE YOUNG AND PUT HIM BACK THERE WITH DAVID CARR THAT WAY NO ONE COULD KNOW WHICH QB WE ARE USING THAT PLAY!


now my actual response:
i agree, much improvement... i did the same thing but you beat me to it... i just used + and - like our coaches do for our hs team. he would have graded out at 95%... which is very good ... at least in high school... so i thought he improved... he just hasnt made those huge plays yet...those will come.
Speaking of Bush... He hasn't gotten one sack or tackle yet, but I guess it's not fair to compare him to a defensive lineman.
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Speaking of Bush... He hasn't gotten one sack or tackle yet, but I guess it's not fair to compare him to a defensive lineman.

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Perhaps not moving him all up and down the line is the thing to do. I haven't watched the replay yet, but I didn't notice him playing at tackle any during the game.

Also saw a couple of spin moves from him, which I hadn't seen at all in 4 pre-season and 1 regular season games. He even put a lick on Manning once IIRC.

Definite improvement. When the game slows down for him, look out.
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The improvement I saw from Mario today was his disengagement from his blocker. It seemed to me he was shedding the blocker quicker and getting into the backfield. Although he seemed to be overrunning the QB and having to chase him from behind. Manning is terrific in the pocket and sensed Mario behind and stepped up.

I'll bet you a Happy Meal he gets his first sack against the Redskins this Sunday.
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I agree that Mario showed improvement.
One thing that i saw was that he took himself out of a lot of plays.
To be fair, I saw all of oue DEs take themselves out of plays quite a few times.
They were obviously concentrating on getting upfield, and were leaving gaping running lanes behind them.
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I'll bet you a Happy Meal he gets his first sack against the Redskins this Sunday.
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There's no question that he was better this week, but I also think you have to compare him with the grand scheme of things. He put on a performance that just about any average DE could make. If you scrutinized billy-go from the Titans, he's probably put on the same performance.

But it's good that he's improving and I think we'll continue to see him get better every week. Hopefully, we'll be able to call him "good" by the end of the year.
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He was a BIT better, but still only uses the bull rush. No moves. I think that will come, but so far.......
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Im not sure in what way Mario has improved...can someone please explain ???
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